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but apparently, it did not take mo brooks by surprise. and here's how we know that. congressman brooks, tonight, tells a reporter, jim newell, at slate.com, that he was wearing body armor when he gave this speech on the morning of january 6th. quote, because of a tip he'd received about potential violence, brooks had been wearing body armor at the very same ellipse speech, in which he encouraged rally attendees to start taking down names and kicking ass. quote. that's why i was wearing that nice, little windbreaker, brooks told me, with a grin. to cover up the body armor. didn't say who warned him or what the risk was that he had been warned about. well, those sound like good questions for the new-select committee investigating the january 6th attack. we don't know who will be getting subpoenas from that committee. but select committee chairman, bennie thompson, told us on this program last night that those subpoenas are going out, soon. in terms of what led to and prompted the january-6th attack? the lies about election fraud. the narrative of a stolen election. the
but apparently, it did not take mo brooks by surprise. and here's how we know that. congressman brooks, tonight, tells a reporter, jim newell, at slate.com, that he was wearing body armor when he gave this speech on the morning of january 6th. quote, because of a tip he'd received about potential violence, brooks had been wearing body armor at the very same ellipse speech, in which he encouraged rally attendees to start taking down names and kicking ass. quote. that's why i was wearing that...
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it's mo brooks the individual in his personal capacity, not mo brooks the congressman. and the tricky question here, michael, is where does the man end and the congressman begin? now, representative swalwell's lawsuit claims these are all statements that are made in his personal capacity. what representative brooks has said in his filing today is no, no, no, no, no, no, this happened during the work day. it happened on the grounds of congress. i was driven there by a member of my staff. therefore this must have been an official act of me as a congressman, and therefore you can't sue me for it. >> elliott, you know that the decembe discussion continues in the house of representatives about a congressional inquiry into january 6th. in fact i'll be talking about it in just a moment. as a plaintiff's lawyer, as a trial lawyer myself, i look at this and wonder might the discovery phase from this litigation bear fruit? >> absolutely. there's no question that it will because there's open questions as to, number one, as you teased until the beginning, what kinds of communicatio
it's mo brooks the individual in his personal capacity, not mo brooks the congressman. and the tricky question here, michael, is where does the man end and the congressman begin? now, representative swalwell's lawsuit claims these are all statements that are made in his personal capacity. what representative brooks has said in his filing today is no, no, no, no, no, no, this happened during the work day. it happened on the grounds of congress. i was driven there by a member of my staff....
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you say i'm behind mo brooks as a candidate? >> we endorse mo brooks. when i look at who we need to solve big problems -- so the problem we faced before is we've had great candidates that get elected and they come in and start towing the party line. i look for people who are going to take on these issues like spending and mo brooks has historically been a fantastic person. >> his own leadership. if it's a go along get along deal and we're going to spend a trillion dollars, i'd like to have a few senators i can rely onto say, no, we can slow down the spend. >> bob from philadelphia on the republican line. go ahead. >> caller: good morning, c-span. thank you for taking my call. mr. brandon, thank you for your efforts. i do appreciate what you do and what you stand for. i live in the city where you are just greatly outnumbered by democrats here. and these people that scream equity are the same people that will look at you cross-eyed in a store, threaten violence to you and then purport to be in favor of equity. there's such an imbalance in this country, an
you say i'm behind mo brooks as a candidate? >> we endorse mo brooks. when i look at who we need to solve big problems -- so the problem we faced before is we've had great candidates that get elected and they come in and start towing the party line. i look for people who are going to take on these issues like spending and mo brooks has historically been a fantastic person. >> his own leadership. if it's a go along get along deal and we're going to spend a trillion dollars, i'd like...
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>> i read the lawsuit you filed against donald trump and others, including a colleague of yours, mo brooks, and i read congressman brooks' response. what is the goal of that litigation? >> accountability. i don't think we can hold donald trump and his enablers accountable enough. when history looks at what we did during the trump years and after, i think we will only be judged harshly if we don't press further to find the truth. so donald trump and mo brooks and don jr. and rudy, they sought to impede the congress from counting the electoral college votes, they traumatized myself and my colleagues, they unleashed a mob on the police who defended the capitol that day. so, michael, it's really an effort to make sure that even post-impeachment and regardless what happens in the criminal trials that those actors are held accountable. >> do you think you can satisfy the causation requirement? very famously mo brooks talked about kicking ass and taking names. that language you cited in your complaint. when he responded, he said, well, there was context. in fact, i can put it on the screen as to
>> i read the lawsuit you filed against donald trump and others, including a colleague of yours, mo brooks, and i read congressman brooks' response. what is the goal of that litigation? >> accountability. i don't think we can hold donald trump and his enablers accountable enough. when history looks at what we did during the trump years and after, i think we will only be judged harshly if we don't press further to find the truth. so donald trump and mo brooks and don jr. and rudy,...
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so this is an important development not just for mo brooks.'t want to underestimate his importance, but he's not the biggest fish in the pond. but it's a terribly important development for the ultimate accountability of the guy who organized a lot of what went on that day and did nothing to stop it as people were being crushed, crushed almost to death in some cases. >> on that point that you raised, the lawsuit that involves the president doing absolutely nothing while the attack was going on, we have now an increasing body of discovery of a sort through these new books that are coming out detailing that day and what donald trump was doing that day. that material is now all available to the lawyers in the swalwell lawsuit. they can use that as the basis for subpoenas to people like ivanka trump, who is reported in some of the books as having gone to her father repeatedly to say, you've got to do something, and he didn't do anything. and others and the manipulations that we were trying to do. and they were specifically -- there's reports of don
so this is an important development not just for mo brooks.'t want to underestimate his importance, but he's not the biggest fish in the pond. but it's a terribly important development for the ultimate accountability of the guy who organized a lot of what went on that day and did nothing to stop it as people were being crushed, crushed almost to death in some cases. >> on that point that you raised, the lawsuit that involves the president doing absolutely nothing while the attack was...
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that mo brooks said that he was wearing body armor.c some since then because of threats on his life. but there are those who look at this and say, a, if he was wearing body armor, that may somehow impact his legal defense in the swalwell case. what gives? >> he could get a subpoena as well. i think one question for him is what led you to wear body armor in this case? how often did you do it? did you have specific information about what was going to happen this day that led you to wear body armor? also importantly, the justice department decided this week they will not be representing mo brooks in the lawsuit, meaning in doj's opinion, he was not acting within his role as a member of congress on that day. >> counselor elie honig, always a pleasure. thank you for being here. >>> so just how contagious the delta variant, more than ebola, common cold and flu, details from an alarming new report next. >>> one atlanta school has quarantined 100 students and it's only the first week of school. t frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dre
that mo brooks said that he was wearing body armor.c some since then because of threats on his life. but there are those who look at this and say, a, if he was wearing body armor, that may somehow impact his legal defense in the swalwell case. what gives? >> he could get a subpoena as well. i think one question for him is what led you to wear body armor in this case? how often did you do it? did you have specific information about what was going to happen this day that led you to wear...
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i saw slate.com is reporting that they interviewed mo brooks and brooks said that as he gave that speechr he was wearing which to me is foreknowledge he knew he was standing before a violent mob and those tchose those words an. that's outside the bounds of any representative's duties. >> a stunning revelation he was wearing a wind breaker, body arbor. okay. so he denies any wrongdoing nonetheless. he says, you know, he was acting as a government official because the tweets he sent separate from those comments, that urged congress not to certify the election were not written by him. he says they were written by congressional staff. so that wasn't his problem and that the white house asked him to speak at the rally. does any of that add up? >> no, it reminds me of, you know, the defense in the tragic murder in san francisco that he was overwhelmed by something else that the white house invited him and other than donald trump doing that, he wouldn't have said those words. it just doesn't make sense. he knew what he was doing. you could see in the speech he's speaking from a prepared stateme
i saw slate.com is reporting that they interviewed mo brooks and brooks said that as he gave that speechr he was wearing which to me is foreknowledge he knew he was standing before a violent mob and those tchose those words an. that's outside the bounds of any representative's duties. >> a stunning revelation he was wearing a wind breaker, body arbor. okay. so he denies any wrongdoing nonetheless. he says, you know, he was acting as a government official because the tweets he sent...
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i don't know what mo brooks was thinking that day, wearing body armor, and he was firing things up.ted states' state of mind was on that day. >> the house slelect committee holding that strategy session. they say they will move on to subpoenas and they're going to do it quickly. how do you think your former colleagues will handle being called to ef it, maybe even subpoenaed? >> i'm curious to see if they put up a fight. ordinarily what you do is first invite them to testify voluntarily. and if they choose not to testify voluntarily, that's when you issue the subpoenas. so usually you don't start with a subpoena. you start with a request. and then we'll see. if they're subpoenaed and they fight that subpoena, that could drag on for a very long time. on the politics if this, if you're a republican member, you don't want these hearings to extend well into 2022 during the midterms, so it might be better to get this out of the way as quickly as possible. fighting this thing, dragging it out, means it's more likely they're going to be testifying later in the election cycle. >> when it cam
i don't know what mo brooks was thinking that day, wearing body armor, and he was firing things up.ted states' state of mind was on that day. >> the house slelect committee holding that strategy session. they say they will move on to subpoenas and they're going to do it quickly. how do you think your former colleagues will handle being called to ef it, maybe even subpoenaed? >> i'm curious to see if they put up a fight. ordinarily what you do is first invite them to testify...
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i wonder when mo brooks saw them beating the cops, cussing them, violently assaulting them. they're kicking ass. i told them to kick ass. he was not the only congressman, "new york times" says mr. trump did not name the law makers. the other once they took notes of, he represented jim jordan of ohio who he described as a fighter a. swoexman says congressman jordan did not, has not, and would fought pressure anyone if 2021. that politico report from a due days before trump's doj meeting says, quote, other members who were in attendance include some of trump's staunchest allies, including jim jordan, he was plotting on overturning the election. earlier this week, congressman jordan was asked if he had spoken to donald trump on january 6th. listen to this response. >> first off, yes or no, did you speak with president trump on january 6th? >> yeah, i spoke with the president last week. i speak with the president all the time. i spoke with him on january 6th. i mean i talk with him all the time. i don't think that's unusual. stacked members of congress to talk with the president
i wonder when mo brooks saw them beating the cops, cussing them, violently assaulting them. they're kicking ass. i told them to kick ass. he was not the only congressman, "new york times" says mr. trump did not name the law makers. the other once they took notes of, he represented jim jordan of ohio who he described as a fighter a. swoexman says congressman jordan did not, has not, and would fought pressure anyone if 2021. that politico report from a due days before trump's doj...
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plus a surprising admission from congressman mo brooks. why he was wearing body why armor under his coat the day of the january 6th insurrection. and our man steve kornacki joins us live from tokyo with the very latest on how team usa is faring in the summer olympics. "the reidout" continues after this. eidout" continues after this morrow. and it's a long flight too. once we get there, we will need... buttercup! ♪ liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need. how much money can liberty mutual save you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars. yep... everything hurts. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no.' everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 14 day, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to... and...when he wants to. so ray...can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit f
plus a surprising admission from congressman mo brooks. why he was wearing body why armor under his coat the day of the january 6th insurrection. and our man steve kornacki joins us live from tokyo with the very latest on how team usa is faring in the summer olympics. "the reidout" continues after this. eidout" continues after this morrow. and it's a long flight too. once we get there, we will need... buttercup! ♪ liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what...
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. >> the justice department will not represent and defend congressman mo brooks who's facing a lawsuittion involvement, including this. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass! >> robert brooks claimed he was acting in his official capacity as a government employee, so the department of justice should defend him. the department said, no, that wasn't part of official duties. was that the right call? >> i've seen these debates before. i know senator jones has as well. it tends to be a close call whether it's within the scope of your employment or whether it isn't. it's hard to say when you're talking about political rhetoric in the heat of the moment. the justice department made that call. i can't say i necessarily strongly disagree with it. i could have also seen it go the other way. >> senator jones? >> i don't think it was a close call. mo brooks is campaigning for the united states senate. he stood on that stage in a campaign mode. there is no question about that. by the way, there was nothing patriotic about what happened on january 6th. i don't
. >> the justice department will not represent and defend congressman mo brooks who's facing a lawsuittion involvement, including this. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass! >> robert brooks claimed he was acting in his official capacity as a government employee, so the department of justice should defend him. the department said, no, that wasn't part of official duties. was that the right call? >> i've seen these debates before....
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maybe they should think of subpoenaing mo brooks to. mo brooks who spearheaded weeks of planning to overturn the election on january six who says his man in the barricade speech that morning was all part of his preparation for that day's vote, i mean the violence that day took most people by surprise, including the police officers on the front lines. according to their testimonies of yesterday. but apparently it did not take brooks by surprise, and that's how we know. that congressman brooks tonight tells a reporter, jim newell at slate.com, that he was wearing body armor when he gave a speech on that morning on january six. quote, because of a tip he'd received about potential violence, brooks had been wearing body armor at the same very ellipse speech in which he encouraged rally and attendees to start taking down names and kicking butz. quote, that's why was wearing that nice little wind breaker, brooks told me with a grin, to cover up the body armor, he didn't say who warned him or what the risk was that he had been warned about. th
maybe they should think of subpoenaing mo brooks to. mo brooks who spearheaded weeks of planning to overturn the election on january six who says his man in the barricade speech that morning was all part of his preparation for that day's vote, i mean the violence that day took most people by surprise, including the police officers on the front lines. according to their testimonies of yesterday. but apparently it did not take brooks by surprise, and that's how we know. that congressman brooks...
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this is really based off that speech that mo brooks gave at the ellipse.ne. then he goes on to say, are you willing to do the same to this crowd? and i think that what the justice department is arguing here is he didn't give that speech in his official capacity. what he was doing was giving a political speech, therefore they are not obligated to step in and defend him. obviously that could have long-term repercussions when it comes to whether or not they step in for anyone else as a civil lawsuits continue. >> yeah. it's significant, he would get more protection if he was doing it in his official capacity. interesting distinction. >> lauren fox, great to see you. >>> simone biles announcing that she is out of tomorrow's all around gymnastics competition. we'll speak to the parents of another star on the usa gymnastics team. >>> plus, republican congressman andrew clyde confronted over his claim that the capitol rioters looked like tourists. we'll have the fiery exchange coming up. limu emu... and doug. so then i said to him, you oughta customize your car i
this is really based off that speech that mo brooks gave at the ellipse.ne. then he goes on to say, are you willing to do the same to this crowd? and i think that what the justice department is arguing here is he didn't give that speech in his official capacity. what he was doing was giving a political speech, therefore they are not obligated to step in and defend him. obviously that could have long-term repercussions when it comes to whether or not they step in for anyone else as a civil...
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alabama's mo brooks, who spoke at the former-president's rally on the morning of january 6th.fically, a new report from slate magazine about what he was wearing and why. when he said this, just a short time before rioters attacked the capitol and those officers. >> today, is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass! >> joined now by slate's jim newell with the details. so i want to read something from your reporting that congressman brooks told you and i am quoting you said -- he says, i was warned on monday, there might be risks associated within the next few days, he said. and as a consequence of those warnings, i did not go to my condo. instead, i slept on the floor of my office and when i gave my speech at the ellipse, i was wearing body armor. that's where i was wearing that nice, little windbreaker, he told me with a grin, to cover up the body armor. so this is the guy who, as we just played, told the crowd that ended up attacking the capitol it's time to, quote, start taking down names and kicking ass. so concerned with his own safety, he slept
alabama's mo brooks, who spoke at the former-president's rally on the morning of january 6th.fically, a new report from slate magazine about what he was wearing and why. when he said this, just a short time before rioters attacked the capitol and those officers. >> today, is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass! >> joined now by slate's jim newell with the details. so i want to read something from your reporting that congressman brooks told you and i am...
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and this all comes up in the context of mo brooks, congressman mo brooks from texas's behavior on januaryth. where he advocated that people kick ass and said a whole-lot more things, stirring up that crowd that went up and did what it did. and he's now been sued by congressman swalwell, along with a number of other people. and he has asked the attorney general to certify that he was acting within the scope of his employment. so that he, in fact, as a congressman who stirred up the trouble on january 6th ought to be defended by the united states. in fact, defended, in the sense that they step in and substitute them, themselves, the united states government, as the defendant in the case. um, and he is immunized by that process. the article we wrote essentially says, clearly, attorney general garland should not certify. indeed, he should conclude that -- that brooks was not within the scope of his employment. and if you think through the consequences of what would happen, if he did so certify, brooks would be off scot-free and -- and essentially, you'd have opened the door for trump and othe
and this all comes up in the context of mo brooks, congressman mo brooks from texas's behavior on januaryth. where he advocated that people kick ass and said a whole-lot more things, stirring up that crowd that went up and did what it did. and he's now been sued by congressman swalwell, along with a number of other people. and he has asked the attorney general to certify that he was acting within the scope of his employment. so that he, in fact, as a congressman who stirred up the trouble on...
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. >> another decision by the justice department by the lawsuit suing mo brooks, congressman mo brookson. explain that to us. >> this is a big deal. so there's a lot called the west fall act and it says you can't sue federal employees if they're acting within the scope of the federal employment. and in this lawsuit, representative eric swalwell, a frequent guest on your channel sued representative mo birx saying that brooks basically conspired to foment the january 6th insurrection. and get this, lawrence, brooks's defense was now what i did was in the scope of my employment as a member of congress. and the department said that's poppycock. preventing a coup turns out not to be in the job description of a member of congress and organizing an attack on your employer is not within the scope of employment. so what this means is that while brooks can still try to argue that this west fall act stuff, the justice department is coming against him and he's likely to lose it. and donald trump is also a defendant of this lawsuit and he's also invoked the west fall act and the justice department
. >> another decision by the justice department by the lawsuit suing mo brooks, congressman mo brookson. explain that to us. >> this is a big deal. so there's a lot called the west fall act and it says you can't sue federal employees if they're acting within the scope of the federal employment. and in this lawsuit, representative eric swalwell, a frequent guest on your channel sued representative mo birx saying that brooks basically conspired to foment the january 6th insurrection....
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mo brooks is a good example. he's in a primary. his opponent just pulled in a huge amount of money and so he's obviously going to try to paint her as an anti trump figure and try to run as the trump figure down there. i think especially where you see these candidates that have big primaries and facing well funded challengers, you're going to see them go all in on these issues that are pretty motivating for the republican base right now. >> ron, what's your reaction to that? >> look what is happening in the states. this is not election integrity but demographic anxiety. the states moving most aggressively to limit opportunities for younger and voters of color are those experiencing the most profound demographic change like georgia and arizona and texas and dpla flo florida where the republican party has the upper hand because of dominance of non-college and non-urban rights but can see the writing on the wall the majority of people turning 18 every year are kids of color. in the polling that's been done, there is a clear correlation
mo brooks is a good example. he's in a primary. his opponent just pulled in a huge amount of money and so he's obviously going to try to paint her as an anti trump figure and try to run as the trump figure down there. i think especially where you see these candidates that have big primaries and facing well funded challengers, you're going to see them go all in on these issues that are pretty motivating for the republican base right now. >> ron, what's your reaction to that? >> look...
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democratic eric swalwell sued republican mo brooks arguing that brooks incited the capitol riot in hisech to the trump crowd hours before the riot making an appeal, or actually it was taking names and kicking ass. now, brooks claims that his words were protected speech, protected as a member of congress. joining me now is the attorney for congressman eric swalwell. great to see you again, as we monitor the progress. >> thanks for having me back. >> your argument is that mo brooks was acting in his personal capacity. his response to the court he's arguing that it was in more of his professional capacity, which is an important thing to note because he does have protections if he can convince the court that he was acting as a member of congress. you know, how concerned are you about this argument? >> look, it's not a crazy principle that he's raising. as you said, members of congress have cover for things within the scope of their employment, giving speeches, doing things for constituents and that's fine. that's good. we want elected officials working. the key, though, is what is within t
democratic eric swalwell sued republican mo brooks arguing that brooks incited the capitol riot in hisech to the trump crowd hours before the riot making an appeal, or actually it was taking names and kicking ass. now, brooks claims that his words were protected speech, protected as a member of congress. joining me now is the attorney for congressman eric swalwell. great to see you again, as we monitor the progress. >> thanks for having me back. >> your argument is that mo brooks...
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. >> matt, earlier this week, the justice department dealt a blow to mo brooks saying they will not be defending him, accusing him of inciting violence on january 6th. some people voice concern, i will call it bed wetting, a lot of folks on the left bed wetting over attorney general merit garland and how he was doing things with the previous administration. but what do your view on that? how do you view it? >> i think it's okay to disagree with some of the decisions. i disagreed with some of them. but i think the krift schism that he was an apologist for the previous administration, and he was trying to do their bidding, it was off base. i think he was trying very hard to follow the rule of law, and it's difficult as attorney general, you get control of the justice department to see issues that are coming well in advance to have time to make a considered decision about how you my want to change course, and i think they had time to get their bearings now, and you are starting to see the effects of some of the decisions. i think what is heartening about all of the decisions, and more you
. >> matt, earlier this week, the justice department dealt a blow to mo brooks saying they will not be defending him, accusing him of inciting violence on january 6th. some people voice concern, i will call it bed wetting, a lot of folks on the left bed wetting over attorney general merit garland and how he was doing things with the previous administration. but what do your view on that? how do you view it? >> i think it's okay to disagree with some of the decisions. i disagreed...
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but mo brooks in his response says this. oks' judgment, trump should be serving his second term as president of the united states. brooks welcomes public debate with anyone who ignorantly claims otherwise. that is horse, insert. joe biden won the electoral college and election. trump had every recourse to challenge, did and lost. a member of congress swore an oath to the constitution and is spewing bull, insert the rest there. that's the problem here. >> because he wants to be a u.s. senator. and he's in a primary for the seat that's currently held by senator shelby. he is trying to obviously take advantage of the fact that the primary -- in his state is going to be pro trump, and so if that means a court document that reads like that, he's obviously willing to do it. this is going to play out in the midterms next year. is this kind of failty to trump and trumpism the key to win the primaries? if it is, that's going to give democrats, obviously, huge fodder in the fall. they're going to run against trump and the gop being the
but mo brooks in his response says this. oks' judgment, trump should be serving his second term as president of the united states. brooks welcomes public debate with anyone who ignorantly claims otherwise. that is horse, insert. joe biden won the electoral college and election. trump had every recourse to challenge, did and lost. a member of congress swore an oath to the constitution and is spewing bull, insert the rest there. that's the problem here. >> because he wants to be a u.s....
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. >>> other january 6 related news in a legal setback for alabama congressman mo brooks.he justice department is essentially saying congressman, you are on your own. a new filing the doj says brooks, a trump ally, was not acting in his official capacity when he spoke at that rally before the insurrection, featuring the then president and therefore he was not shielded from a lawsuit that claims he helped incite the riot when he said this -- >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass! >> nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is following this one for us. talk about what's behind the decision from the doj and what is the significance as it relates to that lawsuit against not just congressman brooks but defendants like former president trump, donald trump, jr., rudy giuliani and so on. >> okay, so that's the easy part, because this applies only to federal officials, so rudy giuliani and donald trump, jr., don't count. they're also sued in this. this federal law says you can't sue somebody, a government official if they're acting withi
. >>> other january 6 related news in a legal setback for alabama congressman mo brooks.he justice department is essentially saying congressman, you are on your own. a new filing the doj says brooks, a trump ally, was not acting in his official capacity when he spoke at that rally before the insurrection, featuring the then president and therefore he was not shielded from a lawsuit that claims he helped incite the riot when he said this -- >> today is the day american patriots...
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and congressman mo brooks actually wore body armor to his speech, riling up the crowd ahead of the riot> we will subpoena whoever we need to subpoena in order to have a full picture of that day. but i think one of the interesting things is that my colleague representative brooks knew to wear body armor. i also knew to come to work in civilian clothes. i basically wore running clothes to work that day because i understood that that day would get dicey. i packed a go bag and left it in my office the night before knowing that it might get tough. so the question then becomes why didn't our intelligence agencies and our departments understand that there was a threat? if i knew to come to work in disguise, why didn't they know to equip our capitol police and preposition national guard? >> those are great questions. and you need to come up with the answers. we have to learn exactly what happened to make sure it never ever happens again. representative stephanie murphy, thank you so much for joining us. good luck. >> thanks so much. have a good day. >>> thank you. coming up, more on the republi
and congressman mo brooks actually wore body armor to his speech, riling up the crowd ahead of the riot> we will subpoena whoever we need to subpoena in order to have a full picture of that day. but i think one of the interesting things is that my colleague representative brooks knew to wear body armor. i also knew to come to work in civilian clothes. i basically wore running clothes to work that day because i understood that that day would get dicey. i packed a go bag and left it in my...
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mo brooks has already said in sworn documents that the white house invited him to be at that rally, so what was the extent of the white house involvement and the trump involvement you? know, we've all seen that video given the tent with all threatening everybody that you better stick with us, so you have a lot of information that's already out there that needs to get a -- >> a lot of information. i'm going -- a lot of information well summed up. i'm glad you mentioned december 21st as well, but there's also a poll this week that found that a majority of trump voters that described what happen ridiculously shamelessly as defending freedom or patriotism and you've become a critic. when members of your party have gone so far, why would you want to remain in the party with those people? >> i don't want to give them the satisfaction of having donald trump dominate this. as i say, it's like chipping away sort of at the berlin wall. eventually it's going to come down because it is a fraud. you know, you see the $75 million that he's raising. it's not even going to things that's been recently
mo brooks has already said in sworn documents that the white house invited him to be at that rally, so what was the extent of the white house involvement and the trump involvement you? know, we've all seen that video given the tent with all threatening everybody that you better stick with us, so you have a lot of information that's already out there that needs to get a -- >> a lot of information. i'm going -- a lot of information well summed up. i'm glad you mentioned december 21st as...
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the department of justice has said that it will not defend mo brooks in the january 6th insurrectionnd they went out of their way in issuing the opinion that was pending, which was about mo brooks, who had asked to be defended. and he said, it's not within the job of any federal employee to create an insurrection. and so that means that donald trump too will not be protected and the decision about allowing all the former department of justice officials to testify and not to be fired from doing so because of any executive privilege claims means that he, too, would not have any executive privilege claims allowed. so, yes, he has no way out of it. he could be arrested. there is an occasion on which the sergeant at arms had to arrest someone who had been subpoenaed and jail him -- there is apparently a jail in the basement of the congress. and that's where that person was kept until he testified or until they agreed to let him go. >> jill, we also learned this week this congress is going to be able to get their hands on trump's taxes. what is it they're going to be looking for and what c
the department of justice has said that it will not defend mo brooks in the january 6th insurrectionnd they went out of their way in issuing the opinion that was pending, which was about mo brooks, who had asked to be defended. and he said, it's not within the job of any federal employee to create an insurrection. and so that means that donald trump too will not be protected and the decision about allowing all the former department of justice officials to testify and not to be fired from doing...
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susan, i want to bring you back into the fold because congressman mo brooks, i can't even fathom the audacity. this man stood on the stage and helped to incite this violent insurrection and he has the at the -- tumerity to ask the doj to represent him, which the doj said get out of here. this kind of rhetoric did not begin with trump, this is long lived in the republican party. so for folks like yourself who do not like trump but are still a member of the party, you just heard the congresswoman say you can't govern alongside these folks. when it comes to voting down ballot, mo brooks is running for senate, marco rubio is running for senate. should they keep voting for republicans who traffic -- >> you should never vote for anyone who you think is morally corrupt or against what your belief system. yes, i'm still part of the party, but i think even the congresswoman said there are -- she's happy to work with the two republicans on the committee, for example. there are discussions and it is important that there are people who are sane who are left in this republican party because i do
susan, i want to bring you back into the fold because congressman mo brooks, i can't even fathom the audacity. this man stood on the stage and helped to incite this violent insurrection and he has the at the -- tumerity to ask the doj to represent him, which the doj said get out of here. this kind of rhetoric did not begin with trump, this is long lived in the republican party. so for folks like yourself who do not like trump but are still a member of the party, you just heard the congresswoman...
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jim jordan and donald trump incited that insurrection along with mo brooks and a few others. i do not understand what we are talking about. the debate is not between a -- should we be doing this together or should we not. the debate is why is the g.o.p. lying to the american public? they have lied throughout this whole thing. they are denying everything that happened on january 6. they need to stop. this is a tearing our country apart. i am sad that this is how the gop has decided to act, instead of stepping up and finding out for the american people what happened. i would also like to point out that kevin mccarthy's separate investigation is going to be wasted taxpayer money and he should not be allowed to do it. if he cannot step up and do what is right by this country and be bipartisan, he should get out of the way and let nancy pelosi and her bipartisan committee with liz cheney -- i think she'll put on a couple more gop representatives and it will be fine. kevin mccarthy is just a crybaby and he should go back and just -- host: all right. we'll hear from kathleen in new
jim jordan and donald trump incited that insurrection along with mo brooks and a few others. i do not understand what we are talking about. the debate is not between a -- should we be doing this together or should we not. the debate is why is the g.o.p. lying to the american public? they have lied throughout this whole thing. they are denying everything that happened on january 6. they need to stop. this is a tearing our country apart. i am sad that this is how the gop has decided to act,...
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the mo brooks' decision is the opposite sort of analysis that's been made.is that that congressman was not acting in a official government function, he was there as a campaign official, a campaign event. they will not defend him. the lawsuit from congressman swalwell and others goes forward. what do you think of that? >> yes, i think that at least in this case, it is a clear case for the justice department to make, to deny that this was a part of his job frankly. so federal law allows the justice department to come in and substitute itself in a case, in a case arising out of the performance of duties of an elected official. and it's the same question, the call that was made is very much the same in the e. jean carroll case, but the justice department is not -- it's not a decision i agreed with, but based on their own past precedent, when a president is speaking it's much more difficult to say that was not a part of his job. but in this case, this activity was pegged as a campaign event. this was mo brooks going out and making these comments in a way that had
the mo brooks' decision is the opposite sort of analysis that's been made.is that that congressman was not acting in a official government function, he was there as a campaign official, a campaign event. they will not defend him. the lawsuit from congressman swalwell and others goes forward. what do you think of that? >> yes, i think that at least in this case, it is a clear case for the justice department to make, to deny that this was a part of his job frankly. so federal law allows the...
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guest: the reason we endorse mo brooks is when i look at who we need to solve the problems, i need people are not going to be beholden to leadership. we have had great candidates get elected and they come in adjuster telling the party line and so when i look around for people who are going to take on these sacred cow issues like spending and mo brooks has historically been a fantastic person. host: taking on his own leadership? guest: his own leadership. i would like to have a few senators i can rely on, who would buck the party and say we need to slow down the spend. host: here is bob in philadelphia on the republican line. sorry about that. go ahead. caller: good morning c-span. mr. brandon, thank you for your efforts. i do appreciate what you do and what you stand for. i live in a city where you are just greatly outnumbered by democrats here and these people that scream equity are the same people that will look at you cross side in a store, threatened violence to you and then purport to be in favor of equity. there is such an imbalance in this country and quite frankly, the megaphone i
guest: the reason we endorse mo brooks is when i look at who we need to solve the problems, i need people are not going to be beholden to leadership. we have had great candidates get elected and they come in adjuster telling the party line and so when i look around for people who are going to take on these sacred cow issues like spending and mo brooks has historically been a fantastic person. host: taking on his own leadership? guest: his own leadership. i would like to have a few senators i...
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. >> of course, mo brooks was one of many republicans who was actively complicit in generating the riot reason he doesn't want to learn about what happened. when republicans say they want to get to the bottom of this, it sounds like o.j. simpson saying i want to find the real killers. they know who is responsible, ultimately, it was donald trump toiv who instigated this riot, which came close to killing members of congress, and came close to potentially overturning an election. and now they continue to try to cover it up with a couple of honorable exceptions like liz cheney and adam kinzinger, the republican caucus is becoming apologists for terrorism in ess essence, and becoming an anti-democratic force in american life. and so many people on the right, bashing the brave police officers who testified yesterday, who risked their lives to save every member of congress. they're being attacked and mocked on fox news and elsewhere on the right. these are people who claim to back the blue, but they're bashing the blue. every time you think the republican party can't go lower, it does. >> s.e
. >> of course, mo brooks was one of many republicans who was actively complicit in generating the riot reason he doesn't want to learn about what happened. when republicans say they want to get to the bottom of this, it sounds like o.j. simpson saying i want to find the real killers. they know who is responsible, ultimately, it was donald trump toiv who instigated this riot, which came close to killing members of congress, and came close to potentially overturning an election. and now...
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eric swalwell's lawsuit against mo brooks will proceed.t denied swalwell's bid for the easy win he hoped for based on the refusal to acknowledge the lawsuit. it concerns this speech brook gave right before the attack. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. >> we're joined now by elie honig. his new book is out today called "hatchet man" how bill barr corrupted the justice department. i can't wait to talk to you about your book in a moment. first, the case against congressman books. how do you read the ruling and where could it be headed? >> the legal concept is default. think of it like a forfeit in sports. the other team doesn't show up, it happens, your team wins by forfeit. in this case, eric swalwell made a motion for default. he said brooks hasn't responded, i should win by default. on friday, brooks responded. all the judge has said just now is that well, brooks has responded. this is not a default. this is not a forfeit. and now the case will move forward on the merits. >> as we just heard, th
eric swalwell's lawsuit against mo brooks will proceed.t denied swalwell's bid for the easy win he hoped for based on the refusal to acknowledge the lawsuit. it concerns this speech brook gave right before the attack. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. >> we're joined now by elie honig. his new book is out today called "hatchet man" how bill barr corrupted the justice department. i can't wait to talk to you about your book in a...
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. >> the justice department says it is not defending that speech from congressman mo brooks on the morningriot. the alabama republican has been sued by eric swalwell for fermenting that attack. but doj told the court that it cannot defend political campaign activity. >>> and california's power grid operator says energy supplies are tight. and they are calling for voluntary conservation from 4:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. to avoid rolling outages. >>> at least two people are dead and four are injured after an acid leak at a texas chemical plant, the leak at the facility involved a chemical acid used in food grade vinegar. officials say the leak was isolated and no impact to the community. >>> a fake uber driver sentenced to life in prison for the kidnapping and murder of samantha josephson in 2019. he says that he is innocent. the death spurred new criminal penalties for predators who impersonate rideshare drivers. >>> and the georgia man accused of killing and shooting eight people pleading sfguilty to fou of the killings. he still faces charges in fulton county where they could pursue the death p
. >> the justice department says it is not defending that speech from congressman mo brooks on the morningriot. the alabama republican has been sued by eric swalwell for fermenting that attack. but doj told the court that it cannot defend political campaign activity. >>> and california's power grid operator says energy supplies are tight. and they are calling for voluntary conservation from 4:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. to avoid rolling outages. >>> at least two people are dead...
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mo brooks is being sued by a democratic colleague over the speech he gave to the crowd on that day hourse insurrection. >> i have got a message and i need you to take it to your heart and take back home and along the way, stop at the capitol. today is the day america patriots start taking down names and kicking -- our ancestors sacrificed their sweats and tears and fortune and sometimes their lives. are you willing to do the same? the fight begins today. you heard the man. he's talking about kicking ass and shedding blood like historical examples from people shed real blood. he says the fight begins today. we know people took him literally. in america people brought free speech rights even for saying things may sound violence as long as he does not direct it or incite it. brooks is running from this. he's trying to duck the whole argument. he's trying to claim, he should be immuned from going to court over this. he chaims what you just saw was part of his official duties the as a member of congress. well, that's his opinion. is he going to get very far with that. he was not getting help
mo brooks is being sued by a democratic colleague over the speech he gave to the crowd on that day hourse insurrection. >> i have got a message and i need you to take it to your heart and take back home and along the way, stop at the capitol. today is the day america patriots start taking down names and kicking -- our ancestors sacrificed their sweats and tears and fortune and sometimes their lives. are you willing to do the same? the fight begins today. you heard the man. he's talking...
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e he endorsed mo brooks.not a clear the field situation. when you look at the house and the senate, it's possible they do well and win the majorities without broadening the tent. republicans just need a single senate seat and they just need five seats in the house and they might be able to get almost all of those through redistricting alone nap would embolden republicans to continue on this path if they can win majorities without changing the skoek of their party. >> and nathan, let me right now if i were a betting person i would get that the democrats pick up senate seats and the republicans pick up the house, how would you deal with that snare zloe. >> i'm not there yet on the specifics. i'm not confident. if i was a democratic strategist, every seat matters. that is a big get for them. the seats in arizona where biden won, and it was narrow. if the democratic turnout dips lower than what republican turnout is going to be then those become republican states in a mid-term environment. >> that's for sure. app
e he endorsed mo brooks.not a clear the field situation. when you look at the house and the senate, it's possible they do well and win the majorities without broadening the tent. republicans just need a single senate seat and they just need five seats in the house and they might be able to get almost all of those through redistricting alone nap would embolden republicans to continue on this path if they can win majorities without changing the skoek of their party. >> and nathan, let me...
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during trump's promotion of the big lie nor will the doj publicly stand in to defend congressman mo brooksric swalwell forced to run for his life after a violent mob and colleague stirred up the rally crowd. whether it's refusing to now be a road block to a select committee's proof or the ways and means committee's attempts to view a presidential tax return, in the end, the goal is to provide the transparency that a co-equal branch of government needs to serve as the effective check and balance that democracy requires. now, we will one day and perhaps soon be able to answer the question on all of our minds as we watched what officer daniel hodges described as domestic terrorism unfold. how could this have possibly have happened in america? >> it's my perpetual confusion. i saw the thin blue line flag, symbol of support for law enforcement more than once being carried by the terrorist as they ignored our commands and continued to assault us. the sting of cs gas and oc spray, which is mace hung in the air as the terrorists threw our own cs gast cans back at us. i learned at least one of them
during trump's promotion of the big lie nor will the doj publicly stand in to defend congressman mo brooksric swalwell forced to run for his life after a violent mob and colleague stirred up the rally crowd. whether it's refusing to now be a road block to a select committee's proof or the ways and means committee's attempts to view a presidential tax return, in the end, the goal is to provide the transparency that a co-equal branch of government needs to serve as the effective check and balance...
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and then, there's mo brooks. you remember him, whipping up the crowd before the rioters stormed the capitol. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. >> hmm. did you see the hat? fire pelosi. now, we're learning that he was wearing body armor when he said that. that seems odd if you're not expecting trouble. and he is still trying to blame black lives matter and antifa for what we know was an attack by trump supporters. remember? all of the evidence, investigation, no antifa, no black lives matter. trump supporters. no black lives matter. no antifa. trump supporters. trumplicans. telling cnn, the reason was, i often wear body armor because of all of the death threats and threats of violence that i and other congressmen get. we were warned by the house sergeant at arms that threats of violence against me had spiked in december 2020 and january 2021. but the only threat i was aware of on that day were blm and antifa. hmm. okay. if you believe that. talk about faulty intelligenc
and then, there's mo brooks. you remember him, whipping up the crowd before the rioters stormed the capitol. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. >> hmm. did you see the hat? fire pelosi. now, we're learning that he was wearing body armor when he said that. that seems odd if you're not expecting trouble. and he is still trying to blame black lives matter and antifa for what we know was an attack by trump supporters. remember? all of the...
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. >> i was the person who came up with the january 6th idea with congressman gosar, congressman mo brooks, and congressman andy biggs. >> why should we take their word for it? the committee needs to look into it. number two, what members of congress were in contact with the insurrectionists before the attack on the capitol? democratic steve cohen said he and another witness recognized others giving such tours in the day before the 6th, something boe bert ignores. you have gosar and the ghost keepers or lauren boe bert. later she appears to accompany others to the border. no wonder nancy blocked banks from being on the committee too. what the committee needs to investigate is there with there was contact between specific congress members and rioters on jan 6th. we need to know. number three, what happened to the d.c. national guard on january 6th? >> we had to wait three hours while they breached the police line, break the glass. the defense department didn't give authority. >> why not? we know one of the top military guys was lieutenant charles flynn, brother of the pro-martial law, qanon
. >> i was the person who came up with the january 6th idea with congressman gosar, congressman mo brooks, and congressman andy biggs. >> why should we take their word for it? the committee needs to look into it. number two, what members of congress were in contact with the insurrectionists before the attack on the capitol? democratic steve cohen said he and another witness recognized others giving such tours in the day before the 6th, something boe bert ignores. you have gosar and...
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there is of course mo brooks of alabama, who went out and rallied the crowd, that crowd that was colder by the attorneys general just ahead of the ride. there's lauren boebert who was new to congress, tweeted on the morning of the six today is 1776. it i want to focus on congress paul both start. part of the reason that things got so harry, with the mob including ashley babbitt, getting so close to the people in the presidential line of succession is because the house took longer that they to adjourn the senate. i only understood this after a watch the documentary. rioters broke into the building at around 2:10 pm. the senate adjourned couple of minutes later, the messages sent. you might remember that moment, i was watching live on air. james lankford interrupted and incomes whispers and everyone starts moving quickly. everyone gets out. the house, at the same time, continued in session for several more minutes and part of the reason was because paul go saar was still airing his grievances of the big lie on the house floor objecting to the ceding electors in his own state. >> in arizon
there is of course mo brooks of alabama, who went out and rallied the crowd, that crowd that was colder by the attorneys general just ahead of the ride. there's lauren boebert who was new to congress, tweeted on the morning of the six today is 1776. it i want to focus on congress paul both start. part of the reason that things got so harry, with the mob including ashley babbitt, getting so close to the people in the presidential line of succession is because the house took longer that they to...
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we're learning more about alabama's mo brooks. he spoke at the president's rally.ort from slate magazine about what he was wearing and why when he said this just a short time before rioters attacked the capitol police and the officers. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. >> joined now by slate's jim newell. congressman brooks told you i'm quoting, he says i was warned on monday there might be risks associated with the next few days. as a consequence of those mornings i did not go to my condo, i slept on my floor. i was wearing body armor to cover up the body armor. so this is the guy who as we just played told the crowd that ended up attacking the capitol it's time to start taking down names and kicking ass. so concerned with his own safety he slept in his office and wore body armor. did he say where, who he had gotten this information from and who allegedly he had told was a threat? >> no. unfortunately he didn't say any of that. he wouldn't go into detail about that. it is interesting though it raises a few questions. to
we're learning more about alabama's mo brooks. he spoke at the president's rally.ort from slate magazine about what he was wearing and why when he said this just a short time before rioters attacked the capitol police and the officers. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. >> joined now by slate's jim newell. congressman brooks told you i'm quoting, he says i was warned on monday there might be risks associated with the next few days. as a...
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that's where it's going to get really interesting whether it's a mo brooks speaking at that rally. >>e benghazi committee which i think is its closest analog in structure. how do democrats make this look like a serious fact-finding committee and not like a circus, if that's the way republicans try to pull it? >> first of all, the benghazi committee started out as a circus. i don't think under the leadership of benny thompson, if you know anything about him from his leadership of the homeland security committee, he's a no-nonsense guy, he's going to follow the rules. i think there's going to be a lot of truth seeking on the democratic side. they'll let the republicans play their antics, but the reality is the republicans don't really control anything in this process because they gave that up by abandoning the idea of an independent commission. i think democrats are going to put their heads down, follow the facts and not play to the antics that will no doubt be a part of the republican presentation. frankly, i wouldn't be surprised because there's so much vying on the republican side th
that's where it's going to get really interesting whether it's a mo brooks speaking at that rally. >>e benghazi committee which i think is its closest analog in structure. how do democrats make this look like a serious fact-finding committee and not like a circus, if that's the way republicans try to pull it? >> first of all, the benghazi committee started out as a circus. i don't think under the leadership of benny thompson, if you know anything about him from his leadership of the...
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but here we have mo brooks, a headliner at january 6th event in washington, talking at cpac in dallas about what the republican party actually needs to do. let's listen. >> dictatorial socialists want to cancel america. we have to fight back. to protect our country's greatness. they attack our republic by engaging in unparalleled voter fraud and election theft activities. they attack our first amendment freedom of speech with censorship for big tech. with cancel culture. >> and trump at his own rallies has been airing that endless grievance about the election. this is where they are in moment when the country needs political leadership and could use political opposition for a good debate but this is where they are right now. >> look what they're not talking about, not the pandemic, top of the voters' minds for years. not talking much about the economy, only on the fringes since it seems to be coming on its way back. they're really talking about cultural issues. there's a lot to unpack in what brooks was saying. throwing up whatever they can think in cultural grievance issues to see wh
but here we have mo brooks, a headliner at january 6th event in washington, talking at cpac in dallas about what the republican party actually needs to do. let's listen. >> dictatorial socialists want to cancel america. we have to fight back. to protect our country's greatness. they attack our republic by engaging in unparalleled voter fraud and election theft activities. they attack our first amendment freedom of speech with censorship for big tech. with cancel culture. >> and...
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. >> meanwhile the justice department has declined to protect alabama republican mo brooks in a lawsuit the insurrection. east bay congressman eric swalwell sued brooks for his role in a rally put on by then president trump before the attack. brooks says he was acting as a government employee. the doj says he was not acting in an official capacity. >> thank you. >>> wikileaks founder julian assange has been stripped of his ecuadorian citizenship. unpaid fees, mismatched signatures and possibly altered documentation. assange is being held in jail in the uk. in 2018 he was granted ecuadorian citizenship by the country's then president. this e cupant of the where heholed foven yearding aes>>nedeveen recall e newsom. the race appears to be tightening. the latest uc berkeley institute of governmental studies poll of likely voters show that 50% support keeping the governor. 47% favor recalling him and that is within the margin of error. ablests say the tighter race reflects motivated republican voters. gop hopeful campaigned in san francisco yesterday. >> californias are angry. californians a
. >> meanwhile the justice department has declined to protect alabama republican mo brooks in a lawsuit the insurrection. east bay congressman eric swalwell sued brooks for his role in a rally put on by then president trump before the attack. brooks says he was acting as a government employee. the doj says he was not acting in an official capacity. >> thank you. >>> wikileaks founder julian assange has been stripped of his ecuadorian citizenship. unpaid fees, mismatched...
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it congressman mo brooks. con continuing on this topic, he has not committed to even naming republicans to the committee. many of your republican colleagues said they want no part of this committee for all different reasons. do you think that this committee can fulfill its mission without republican members? >> well, we do have republican members. i'll note -- >> without more. more than liz cheney, fair point. >> yes, we went to extensive links to try to establish a nonn non-partisan commission outside of congress but not with enough votes to overcome the 60-vote threshold and the goal is to no make this partisan. we're looking at this like the n n 9/11 commission. protecting the capitol, really why did a violent insurrection happen that attempted to stop the certification of the election results? that's the reason we're doing this. and, you know, i personally served for 20 years in uniform. i took an oath to support and defend the constitution and protect against all enemies foreign and comdomestic and howd w
it congressman mo brooks. con continuing on this topic, he has not committed to even naming republicans to the committee. many of your republican colleagues said they want no part of this committee for all different reasons. do you think that this committee can fulfill its mission without republican members? >> well, we do have republican members. i'll note -- >> without more. more than liz cheney, fair point. >> yes, we went to extensive links to try to establish a nonn...
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mo brooks was at i question cpac, did two cpacs this year, i saw a speech of his in dallas warning about haste sr., staunch anti-communist, big right winger, but he was around when there was a soviet union and a cold war. it's wild to me this has continued down through the generations as such a central talking point, meghan. >> that's right. and actually, like, on the merits, i don't think that taylor swift would be the first in line in the marxist revolution. i think she built up a lot of goodwill. >> true. no, she would. >> spending the last two years reclaiming ownership of her labor or songs, in this case. but you're right. it feels like there is a well big "wheel of fortune" that conservatives spin once a year and decide what cultural grievance they will bring up. actually, speaking of critical race theory, when i was in law school in 2012 i took a critical race theory class and we were reading derek bell and a big scandal that the right was trying to whip up was that barack obama in the '90s had hugged derek bell and was going to usher in this wave of, like, critical race theories
mo brooks was at i question cpac, did two cpacs this year, i saw a speech of his in dallas warning about haste sr., staunch anti-communist, big right winger, but he was around when there was a soviet union and a cold war. it's wild to me this has continued down through the generations as such a central talking point, meghan. >> that's right. and actually, like, on the merits, i don't think that taylor swift would be the first in line in the marxist revolution. i think she built up a lot...