we said this last week, but you're right, mo mueller, mo probables. >> wh-- problems. >> this is the only case where the prosecutors talked about the possibility of someone aangge - angling. they thought he was angling for the pardon. >> asking for a sentence at this point i think speaks to the apg -- anger, it is unorthodox. there is definitely that, also there is definitely building up in terms of who else might be implicated. it is a way of clearing room to talk about other people. >> do you think that donald trump did it on this so-called emergency and he says maybe i will pardon him sooner? like some have done in -- >> there is nothing about this president that goes by the book unless the book is autocracy for dumb mys, i have never seen anything like today. >> someone gave him add fievice just that it could hurt you, mr. president. >> i think it is fair to say that the provision of a pardon right now looks material finish him. but he also flats the rules all of the time. it is a big leap to make possibly but it is only friday. >> only friday, gene, on the roger stone part, walk

the mo mueller we come across, the mo problems we see. >> oh, boy. >> it's friday, so we can get in deeper. melissa, you look at all this. that's just on the mueller probe gathering information. then you have the hammer being dropped on paul manafort. i don't think this has fully sunk in. we have been covering it on the show and will continue tocover it. you could have the number one guy on the campaign in jail for his life. >> this is a big deal, the immediate sentencing of paul manafort shifts things. things are heating up. we said this last week when we talked about the mueller probe. again, you're right. mo mueller, mo problems. >> when you look at that and him wanting to immediately get this done, what else is there? because this is the only case, paul manafort, where the prosecutors have talked about the prospect of someone angling for a pardon. there's a big difference between everyone else. we all sit here, we pay close attention. we talk. sometimes people have conjecture. this isn't that. this was for whatever reason, as part of the case they were building, which they won on 3 of

. >>> we've gone from mo problems to mo mueller, mo problems. >>> "the beat" weeknights at 6:00 on msnbchave not thought about it. it looks like he's defending himself very well, but you have to get rid of the russia witch-hunt. >> president trump refusing to give a firm answer when asked whether he'll harden roger stone. trump is also suggesting stone was not a conduit between wikileaks and his 2016 presidential campaign. >> go after hillary clinton for her e-mails? she had 33,000 e-mails deleted after receiving a subpoena from congress -- >> and then -- >> excuse me. first of all, roger didn't work at the campaign except way, way at the beginning. way, way before we're talking about. >> and federal prosecutors say a senior person was in touch with roger stone. and elliott williams, former federal prosecutor and former deputy assistant during the obama administration and msnbc contributor and author of "the plot to destroy america." you saw the president's interview there on cbs as well as the interview he gave to the "new york times." he did address some issue when it comes to the muel

>>we're hearing that the mos post-mueller phase may be harder than the mueller phase.we had rare leaks but mueller, most things running under the radar except for those fascinating indictments and sentencing agreements he's blushes and pu publishes and puts on his web site. but now this becomes a public process with these house investigations, multiple investigations in other jurisdictions. so the president who complained a lot about mueller may have a lot more distractions to worry about and complain about. >> let me get your thoughts on north korea. the president walked away from the summit with kim jong un without a win. when you saw the leadup, we had the paperwork ready to go and now the president walking away this morning. >> this is a very surprising outcome. because this president of all people wants great headline, wants a great tv show, cares more about the state craft and the stage craft, how it's going to look. so this result is something he definitely would have wanted to avoid, something we hear as we talk to former trump advisers, something he complains