creating a security base, an army of police putting the country together, of course nato, got rid of moammar gadhafi. but as soon as gadhafi was gone, the international community was gone. a vacuum of security, of legitimate authority and competing tribes regions and ethnicities, fighting for oil. as you said this is a very rich country and here also complicating this basic internal mosaic of political players a regional war by proxy that is really adding a great deal of tensions and prolonging this particular civil war that could easily plunge libya into a situation like syria and iraq. >> certainly an alarming situation there, nawaz thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> while the world has focused on the deadly ebola virus, bloody campaign to create their own caliphate in the region's powerhouse nigeria. male and female suicide bombers blamed on boko haram have killed nearly 140 people just in the past month including at least 44 people at a market tuesday, 45 more in an attack on a village thursday and 48 people at a boys high school assembly on november 10th. a local politicia

government but from libyan leader moammar gadhafi. >> i am asking for help of arab rulers, especiallye he's known for helping those who are suffering. >> it takes nearly a year before the u.s. government has enough intelligence to act safely. there's no guarantee hallums will even be alive once they get there. but on september 7, 2005, it's go time. a daring raid in broad daylight, and the soldiers' helmet cams capture every adrenaline-fueled moment. >> i heard helicopters. and at first it sounded normal, the helicopters flying by. the helicopters started getting louder, and then it felt like they were landing on top of the house. i heard a lot of yelling and running, and then i heard somebody hitting on this door. i didn't know if it was somebody there to rescue me or trying to kill me. the door falls in. this american soldier jumps down in the room, and he points at me, and he says, are you roy? and i said yes. he says, come on, we're getting out of here. one of the special forces guys handed me a flag and said whenever we're able to rescue someone, we always give an american flag t

we kicked out the legs under several leaders, even unattractive ones like saddam hussein or moammar gadhafire chaos. when president obama, for example, did not follow through (?) on certain threats or commitment is in syria. that sends the message that the united states is not to be relied on or feared. it's a mixture of things we've done over several presidency and see things we haven't done. liz: and at the same time we're not cheering or supporting israel as we should. netanyahu has felt almost ignored or rejected by the united states on several levels. as we look at what's gone on in the middle east, and that one particular democracy, you could arguably shift what's going on in russia. you know, i asked netanyahu once about vladimir putin. he said i can't get into that because his problems are more significant when it comes to those terrorists. let's talk about vladimir putin. at europe's periphery, it was the first, but will it be the last of putin's push. >> i'm not sure we've seen the end of what he's doing in ukraine. he seems to be increasing the pressure. several years ago we saw

we figured it would have been moammar gadhafi in libya, because that was the time of the arab spring, and we figured they wanted us to go get him, so we started training, well, not training, but getting our gear prepared for that sort of environment. we were briefed more and more. they told us they would give us the brief in a couple days and we asked who was going to be at the brief or the read-in, as they called it. and just some of the names they mentioned didn't make sense for that part of the world and we sort of figured it out. >> there were bin laden experts, in other words? >> yeah, from different agencies, different parts of the world, just not that region. and then we did go down to a different training area. they gave us the briefing. they did say this is as close as you've ever been to osama bin laden. >> man. >> and that was quite a feeling. it wasn't -- there's no cheering, there was no high-fives. it was a more, okay, we're ready now. should we go? today. >> talk about being in that black hawk headed towards abad abad, what the mood was in the chopper. >> well, the mood

the picture in libya has not been pretty after moammar gadhafi was toppled. so the thinking had been for a while, we would give a wink and nod to assad and say, we don't want you in place, but we're going to use political and diplomatic measures to try to remove you. and then focus our military activities on isis. but if that is changing now, it's a really different map for the united states and the threat of a slippery slope into a much more deeper engagement. >> sure, and our involvement. let's consider this scenario. say the united states is eventually successful in getting bashar al assad to leave power. is it up to the united states to find a replacement? >> well, there are lots of different scenarios here. i'm sure that various parts of the syrian civil society will have to come together and argue about that. the problem is, can those moderates really prevail over much more ferocious and ideologically extreme elements within their society. i think that many of the realists in the region say that while assad may go, you may still want to have someone fro

and what it did but many of those the aftereffects were done -- the genesis was really under moammar gadhafi. so we're confronted with fractured states, iraq, syria, libya, the hollowing out of security structures. we don't have sufficient partners weapon don't know how to operate in those environments to says natural we trying to deal with nonstate actors, tribes,th anything mill lit ya, and the question is what does the future contured of thieves states going look lining? i think it can best be described as a hybrid security environment where you have very hollow, corrupt, notional state institutions working alongside paramilitaries, tribes, sectarian mill lit ya and this is the future. how does the u.s. as a state power that is used to dealing with ministries of defense, ministries of interior, how does it insert itself into those very fractured states? i completely agree with much of what was said here about the absolute corruption of many of our allies and the fact that we're working for centralized regimes that are fueling the very extremism that they purport to be fighting. and this i