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of the year and he teaches at depaul university and his interlocutor donovon hohn is the author of moby duck, the new york times notable book and a winner of the penn john kenneth galbraith award for fiction and a literary science writing award and his second book the inner coast was published early last month and i think a lot of us know this but both of these men graduated from the mfa program at the university of michigan a few blocks away from the bookstore so i wanted to show that to those who are familiar but otherwise i'd appreciate it if you wouldn't mind putting your virtual zoom reactions together for tonight's first reader . harvey, thank you. >> hey miles. >> hey donovan. >> good to see you. >> at the us and a program works in and i was poetry. it's probably why your book is longer than nine and also we both teach nonfiction here in chicago and i do it in detroit so it's nice seeing you are in the zoom space . and i want to be clear to everyone that this is miles event. he kindly is sharing our stage with me. i'm going to get ahead of you with your reading and a quote in you

alessandra moby delhi has written a new account of the birth of our solar system. how a solution is the climate working on the origin of planetary systems as like being a detective so let's you arrive at the crime scene and use the clothes to try to work out what happens if by sea. new above good uses them so that act will issue from our solar system as it is we try to reconstruct how it formed and develop new doc when we come up with a scenario we get a shiver of excitement with thinking that maybe we've got close to what actually happened to us here or. planetology just start from the present position of the planets attempting to hypothesize a scenario of the solar systems formation with the help of computer simulations. and also list i'm like all planetary systems formed from a cloud of gas and dust that surrounded the young son 4500000000 years ago. but our solar system seems to have a very different structure from the majority of planetary systems discovered over the last few years. also to greek we now think that our solar system is pretty magically them so t

buckley is a great fan of moby dick there are biblical portions i admire the great on - - a great dealm reminded in 1949 my father about the first fm radio we could listen to classical music almost without interruption. so i've been doing that for a long time including volunteering and a local public station which plays classical music all the time. i've been volunteering 27 years. >> good for you. >> now i read "the new york times" as well as the boston globe will sell qnx are to somebody else. so when the radio station almost went best 12 years ago university of southern california bail that out. what remedy do you propose to save classical music on radio? >> that is a fascinating question. those are developments i would long to see i am a devoted listener to classical music. on the bright side there are so many ways to get it. you probably know about it like pandora. i can open my laptop and go to pandora and instructed to play for me among the menu if one can on - - 100 kinds of music. i can turn on comcast at home go to channel 478 i can have a choice of orchestral, streaming, bra

counted out to more school but just don't publish you know yeah sure they're german doctors who follow moby chalk enough on this board show us the 4 viewers you know show us the substance if they fall in line play by the people on the plane we're not poisoned you know why aren't they handing this over let's get let's cut to the crux of it why isn't this happening that it would seem the obvious thing to do. well because it never happens i mean let me remind you why the british government allow the script file and his daughter talk to the reporters ok with them in their wallet prove gloss you know all last keech protect them by all possible means but let them talk to the report us or let them on sequester by email i don't know but there was absolutely no exposure there was no information again you know why why wasn't there even in the u.k. the whole area was sealed off and somehow the same substance popped up 4 months later in another british seat you know 2 people were poisoned how can that just go and explore let's go back to now let's go back to now yeah. now is rushing to the mountain int

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but i did learn that moby dick had homoerotic underpinnings, english major. anyone who pays more than legally owed is an idiot. you want to pay more, find, write the check, sucker. what's the bigger story for you? this lame story lands a day before the biggest debate ever. bombshells drop by the powerful to sway an election but trump's stories are like buses. you miss one, there's another coming in 15 minutes except now it's every 15 seconds and all of them are lighter than air. so i'm going to ask you a question that i often ask you usually after the show. is this legal? we don't know where this information came from and "the new york times" says that he obtained it provided by sources with legal access to it. so it's publicly available information meaning it's not a bombshell. what is this? i don't get it. >> dana: there is two separate questions here. is it legal for the person that linked it to "the new york times"? i would argue no, i am not a lawyer, but i imagine that that person did so under the condition of anonymity because they wanted to make sure

the south end of the island where fishermen who are in revolt sai- >> it is like what you did with mobyoc. the bestseller highly acclaimed book which is amazing but it is about, i don't know how many rubber ducks they get released into the ocean and where they all wind up but it is about many of the things in that way that donovan was talking about and i would hope wonderfully digressive and if you don't like it it's awful and just get to the point but donovan goes so many places in that book and sees so many things just to bear witness and i just think bearing witness is such a powerful thing in our culture and something we don't do enough of. >> there may be other questions but if you could make a movie of this because it does feel cinematic i know you have ideas about who should play strang. >> yeah, my 18 -year-old son, go ahead. >> but i also want to know if you have any ideas who should direct it? unlike a lot of narrative history there is this mark twain humor to the storytelling so you'll mostly like a charlie kaufman or spike jones to adapted if you get to it because you got to

president trump, since his first day in office, he was, like, captain ahab hunting moby dick.e affordable care act. he's tried every way he could administratively with the vote that senator mccain helped us win on, and in the courts to take health insurance away from tens of millions of people. he wants to -- he'll want to find the supreme court who will help him do that. that would be a horrible thing under any circumstance, but especially in the midst of a global pandemic that because of his own mismanagement has led to 200,000 deaths, many of which were unnecessary. >> you talk about how you want your republican colleagues to basically hold to their own words, that's something you just mentioned. i have to ask you, in 2016, when merrick garland's nomination was blocked you said never before has a sitting president been denied his constitutional right to nominate someone for a supreme court vacancy and the idea of senators refusing to take votes during an election year is shameful. why is it different for the other side now? >> hallie, it isn't. you left out an important par

nuclear exchange about a navy destroyer to seek the submarine and then becomes a modern day ahab as in mobyick and the cat and mouse game they play in the icy waters off the coast of greenland andhe iceland how that could of dragged the two nations into a war or on the beach by neville shoot about a nuclear exchange to contaminate the world's environment. these are cautionary tales. novels, fiction not designed to be predictive hopefully they are the opposite. >>host: we ask authors what their favorite books are what they are currently reading he sent us two pages we will show you a couple of those. the handmaid's tale? >>guest: what a marvelous work of imagination. i will guess that many people will have seen the series on cablek television which i think is okay. but the book is so chilling it will stop your heart about patriarchy that dominates women. the ultimate authoritarian. state. with the nobel prize for literature is announced that it will be margaret atwood because of the scope of and has won the prize twice in the greatest of living writers. she is canadian. that is the ultimate

town is sort of nestled in a more famous part of the hampton and there's an old town mentioned in moby dick. a lot of goods went from that part of long island town. starting in the 30s and 40s, there were african-american doctors, lawyers, teachers doing out there getting places. they have extra money and it's a safe place to go, bring your kids, word-of-mouth. people in harlem are going in the 30s and 40s. they told her cousin in new jersey and they start doing so my mom started going there in the 40s and i spent my summers up there. we grew up in the city you go out there every summer. this is sag harbor of the book is based on my adventures in sag harbor, the town. >> host: here you write is there anything worse than a bigger kid playing keep away with your stuff then rehearsal for adulthood? >> guest: to have a main character that is 15 and doing a lot of identity formation. figuring out where he's part of this community, where he deviates from his community, his peers. he is a black kid that likes susie and run dmc. he's figuring out what it is to be a person and a lot of that was

and old whaling town mentioned in moby dick.starting in the 30s and 40s african-american doctors, lawyers, teachers, getting summer places, extra money, the most safe place to go, by word-of-mouth, in the 30s and 40s, they start doing that. going out in the 40s, in the city, to college. "sag harbor" is based on my adventures in sag harbor the town. >> host: here you write was there anything worse than a bigger kid playing keep away with your stuff, for adulthood. >> guest: the main character benji is 15 and doing a lot of identity formation. in this community, he deviates from his community. in bell house, in dmc, to be a person and that weird identity battle as you get older, psychological warfare engaging with your community, when you are a teenager you sort of wake up. it is sort of upscale, and it means like you made it or not making it, embracing the fact that you are a little bit posh. >> host: back to "sag harbor," getting rid of your sag house was unforgivable, something your kids often surfaced. you still have your sag

this more famous part of the hamptons but southhampton and there's an old whaling town mentioned in moby dick. a lot of kids went from that part of long islandsound , and starting in the 30s and 40s there were african-american doctors, lawyers, teachers started going out there. getting summer places, they had some extra money and started acommunity and it was a safe place to go your kids . sort of by word-of-mouth, people in harlem are going in the 30s and 40s. they tell their cousin innew jersey and they start coming . so my mom started going out there in the 40s. i'd spend my summers out there. i grew up in the city but would go out there every summer to college so the book is based on myadventures in sag harbor the town . >> here you write was there anything worse than a bigger kid laying keep away with your stuff? dreary rehearsal for adults. >> guest: i mean, the character of benji is 15 and there's a lot of identity formation. i think he's figuring out where he is part of his community . where he deviates from his community . his peers, he's a black kid who likes bauhaus and susie