the name modok would never fly today. if you pitched modok, which what does modok stand for? pages, whatever you draw. and the guy, was in a bad mood when he drew it. you want this? drew a giant head with tiny arms. here. i'm going home. you can feel the anger on the page coming off of modok. it's so great. >> jimmy: as a kid reading this comic book, you read spider man, you imagine yourself as spider man or ironman or any of these guys. do you ever imagine you would be modok? >> no. and not only did i not imagine i'd be modok, when i would read spider man, i would go some of his villains are kind of cool, the scorpion or doc ok. every now and then modok would show up. modok, whenever he shows up in com comics, he comes in screaming. he is immediately defeated. the fact that that's the one i got to play, it's just so -- but we really leaned into the fact that he is a complete disaster. and that's part of the series which is really fun. >> jimmy: not only did you make the show, you co-wrote with your buddy jason some of these comic books. i have to tell you. >> yes. >> jimmy: