need more data than just one case to make the case to the legislators and the people that control the moen and who control the laws and all that stuff to be able to eleven improvement, you know, especially on the things that really matter to us on a personal basis either as a candidate or administrator of a statewide voter registration system. >> if i'm not mistaken, your state is already exempt from section 8. you're minnesota, correct? i think you're one of the six that could not possibly be subject to the obligations. >> i would not be beyond ignoring that fact if i had an argument to use with legislators to figure out how financing of any improvement, but i think we could have agreements among states on at least death records, because a lot of minnesotans go to the southern states. so this is a different kind of problem. so i'm interested in the stories that help us convince the people, be it local officials or finance committee chairs or whomever, to make these improvements because all of us are interested in clean lists, i mean, for all kinds of reasons, we want clean lists. >> well,