child died from shrapnel wounds it was not immediately clear who was behind the shelling but much of mogadishu has been relatively peaceful over the past year however what they call indiscriminate bombing attacks are still taking place or actually here on our t.v. he's the man who pulls the rug out from under the feet of authorities worldwide and has them quaking with this latest wiki leaks julian assange he'll be back revealing more secrets in just about i would within. exclusive interview paramount. to. the. right here in russia. right here. right here. to germany. france's newly elected socialist leader facing tough. for stability for many in syria after people made their choice in the country's first.

suffering wounds caused by shrapnel it was not immediately clear who was behind the shelling much of mogadishu has been relatively peaceful over the past year but indiscriminate mortar and bomb attacks still take place. two police officers have gone on trial in the u.s. accused of beating to death a homeless man as he cried out for help it's the latest in a spate of police brutality cases but as artist marie aboard now reports many in the u.s. feel justice is not being served. so you were two thousand and twelve shooting death of teenager trayvon martin when marley graham was shot and killed inside his home two unarmed african-american teenagers in two separate states succumb to the same fate in florida trayvon martin was carrying candy when he was gunned down by neighborhood watch volunteer george zimmerman a bronze teenager being pursued by police moments before he was killed in new york city where marley graham was standing in his bathroom when he was shot in the chest by a plainclothes narcotics officer who forced himself into the home without a warrant the eighteen year old was not in pos

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they've been able to control mogadishu. in the last few months they have been driven out. is fracturing. when that happens with these types of groups there becomes a power struggle. and it's not exactly clear who is in charge, who is not, but he's on the outs. he's reaching out now to the west. for the first time. >> eliot: has he indicated that perhaps he wants to come back and that he's willing to renounce his pursuit of terrorism to come back to the united states,s and provide information that would be useful in eliminateing terror against us? >> i have asked him that very question point blankly, and he has been very clear about the fact that he has absolutely no plans to come back to the united states to surrender. he wants to stick this out. however it ends. whether that means he dies a martyr or he's killed by his own people. he believed that he is fighting for a just cause and will do that to the end. >> eliot: the fact that the other jihaddists does not turn on him, does not mean that he has renounced his own dedication to terrorism as a path? >> that's correct. >>

he said stop having big battles in the central battles in the marketplace of mogadishu.'t make the same mistakes al qaeda made in iraq, don't kill local tribes members. some wrote to the pakistanis saying you have to suspend operations killing pakistanis in mosques and markets. he was aware this was his achilles heel. >> you go into the specifics of media propaganda in coordination with the tenth anniversary of 9/11. it demonstrated he and some of his aids were pretty sophisticated in the american television. >> he wrote cbs was the least bias of all of the networks. his media member mentioned brian ross of abc news as somebody they might try and reach out to, mentioned journalists in britain, journalists in pakistan and did a media analysis. fox was not a network they liked. they had some mildless -- mildly disparaging messages. a fairly sophisticated look at the media scene, the whole point was how are we going to celebrate the anniversary of 9/11, what media outlets will we do? >> thanks so much for writing "man hunt." appreciate it very much. >> thank you very much.

i was in mogadishu two weeks before black hawk dawn and had to hitchhike a ride out on an old sovietet to nairobi on my own. i was there with abc news and things were going to hell in a handbasket. there are times when i learned to scramble. i have a very mutual office for a news correspondent. most people have news stuff. the top frame is the original drawings from disney's spin and martie show from "the musketeers." i thought joining the cowboy round-up was an iconic part of my childhood. this is a cowgirl round-up that happened in the dakotas in the '20s. i just think it is extraordinary. this was my first horse. this is a very, very, very famous german painting of the surgeon pushing death away from his patient. it's very iconic for the surgeon telling death, you cannot have my patient right now. >> you must love horses. >> it is very funny, i grew up in indiana, loved horses, but my father wouldn't let me ride horses because he said that the doctors' daughters who road horses were little notes. i said, daddy, maybe it is not the horses, maybe it is how they were brought up. he d

today, he says the education system resembles mogadishu.ber he says, arnie duncan is a good guy. there are good policies being implemented by this administration. it is going well. >> i am just so shocked that he would say that a president who was born in kenya, a secret muslim, is running a third world education system. >> that's the theme, sorry. >> listen. he has said, he said it over and over again in the last few months that obama doesn't understand the economy. doesn't understand the uniqueness of america. so of course, his plan is to have a third world education system. i hate to say this about romney because it sounds, ideological. but he is in a position where he will say literally anything about anything if he thinks it gives him a momentary advantage. there are issues to discuss. there are ways to have honest policy disagreements without using the excessive rhetoric that feeds into the obama hate machinery out there. but yet he doesn't seem to be able to do that. >> you've made some specific comments in writing about this individ

and i served with the 42nd field hospital in 1993, during the second rotation in mogadishu somalia. it's like a letting go, like shredding the past. attempt to shred the past. so when i'm creating something, which by the way i haven't created anything yet, i've been cutting up my uniform and cutting up other uniforms and it's been triggering on many levels to even begin to think about what i want to express about my experience. because it's like, yeah, i can look at someone's words on combat paper and say, yeah, i feel that same way, or experienced that too. because i feel like it's one place where i'm understood. my family doesn't understand me. a lot of the people that knew me before somalia don't understand me. and i feel like i come here and it's okay. whatever changed me, you know, about somalia, here it's understood and it's okay. >> ifill: there's much >> ifill: there's much more about the combat paper project on our web site, newshour.pbs.org, including a slideshow of veterans' art projects and an expanded look on how combat paper is created. also, if you're a veteran involv

women should be allowed to fly special operation helicopter planes, such as the ones we used in mogadishu michael durant, for instance, was a special operations helicopter pilot. this is a position that dacowits rec--recommends that we open. so you have people sitting at a table discussing this and saying things like--and they have to be explained, you know, where the front is and what--what the concept of front and rear means. and--so that's bad. and they're also--i don't know. i think they basically exist to--and this is just my opinion, but i think they basically exist as sort of a perk for--for women who, you know, who have been slogging away in public service, civic service for a long time and this gives them a chance to go to military bases and throw around that military jargon, which is always very sexy to throw around. and i--i'm sorry, ladies, but i've been to three of these things and i don't see anything coming out of them. c-span: on the back of your book--advance praise for your book comes from people like james webb, who is the former secretary of the navy. >> guest: yeah. c

stop having big battles in the central marketplace in mogadishu.n troops. stop doing things that are counterproductive. he said to his them ni affiliate don't make the same mistakes that al qaeda made in iraq. don't kill local tribes members. some al qaeda leaders wrote to the pakistani taliban saying you have to suspend the operations killing civilians in mosques and markets. they were keenly aware that this was their achilles heel. >> he was also planning and you go into specifics of meeting propaganda extravaganza in coordination with the tenth anniversary of 9/11, and it demonstrated that some of his aides -- they were pretty sophisticated in the american television networks. >> in his view, cbs was the least bias of the networks. adam was an american member of al qaeda wrote him doing an analysis. he didn't mention you or me, wolf, by name. he did mention brian ross of abc news and someone he was trying to reach out to and he mentioned journalists in britain and journalists in pakistan and he did a media analysis and fox, of course, had mildly

. >> i was in mogadishu before black hawk down. and i had to get on an u.s.s.r. to go to nairobi.e've had less than 1% of the population doing the fighting. >> i spent 15 minutes thinking we were going to be execute and we weren't, obviously. but that really left a mark. >> how much did you love this last election, as referenced by not one, not two, but three books that you ultimately write? it's interesting looking at the cover of this book. fred thompson, where is he now? >> he does infomercials. >> and rudy giuliani and then there's john edwards. not having a good time at all. >> you've been compared to ernest hemingway. many say you are this generation's ernest hemingway. how does that make you feel? >> he didn't really work in journalism. he's known for his fiction. i've never written fiction. >> is this your mascot? >> he is the guy. it's actually a photo of him. they changed the base to make the base into the united states. >> very clever. >> yeah. >> i moved to little rock, arkansas, in 1983 where there was this unknown little governor whose wife happened to practice famil

. >> i was in mogadishu two weeks before blackhawk down and had to hitchhike outen a old soviet, ussrn my own. i was there with abc news and things were going to hell in a hand basket. >> for eight and a half years of the afghanistan war, we're simultaneously fighting another war in iraq. even with all of that we've had less than 1% of the population doing the fighting. >> i spent 15 minutes thinking we were just going to be executed. and we weren't obviously. but that really left a mark. >> how much did you love this last election? as referenced by not one, not two, but three books that you ultimately write? it's interesting, looking at the cover of this book, i mean fred thompson, where is he now? >> he's doing infomercials. >> for rudy giuliani. america's mayor, he shows up on cable tv. >> and then there's john edwards. >> he's under trial. >> not having a good time at all. >> you've been compared to earnest hemingway. many people say you are this generation's earnest hemingway. >> is this your new mascot? >> yeah. this is the guy who was on the front of the book. he is the guy. it

. >> i know you were awarded the silver star your operations in mogadishu and i know you have a bookut, tell me about it. >> unlike my first book that was memoirs, this book takes a look at modern day power vacuums that exist in al-qaida and some of our so-called allies not the least of which is pakistan. so i get -- i get to like point the fingers at people who are our friends because we give them money. >> right. so it's all out there in the book and you're able to do it in a fictional way but bring a lot of real world -- your real world experience to it. the name of the book is "seal team 6 outcast." thanks so much for joining us this morning, howard. good luck with it. >> you bet. have a good day. >> straight ahead, barney frank is back with a very bad joke. >> when you get an honorary degree, they give you one of these and you now have a hoodie that you can wear and no one will shoot at you. i think you'll feel pretty protected by that. >> fantastic. fallout from those comments straight ahead. remember when oprah was the queen of daytime talk? the secret behind her awesome ratin

professors, you know, um, like the man at columbia who wished upon, you know, america a million mogadishusr, you know, or telling people about ward churchill, telling people that the outrages of american universities. and to her, you know, the problem was not the outrages, the problem was now the american public was interested in the outrages. and, you know, the idea, again, we get back to this question about, you know, you think that university professors and the people who are interested in higher education want transparency, you think that's sort of one of their buzz words. but, no, they look at transparency as, oh, now all these, you know, sort of the little people are now looking over my shoulder, and they couldn't possibly understand the scholarship that i'm engaged in. c-span: you in the next paragraph say just to be clear, was a representative of the ford foundation, the sugar daddy of modern -- is that what they are, a liberal foundation? >> guest: oh, sure. i mean, ford foundation, basically, was responsible for sort of, you know, funding the great society before it was, you know