in mogadishu, when the war started, there were militia groups everywhere.ead bodies were scattered everywhere, just things that you can't imagine. we were attacked by the militia groups. i think there were about ten. they came to one of my uncles, and then they shot at my father that night. he was shot in his left leg. and then from the back, it was going out from his side. my father survived. we fled from mogadishu at the beginning of 1982, we travelled to the border of kenya. we were very young at that time and my father could not walk. we had a donkey cart, we are trying to cross the border. you know that you can be caught by the bandits at any time. if they catch you, that is the end of your life. also, that day, if you are caught by the soldiers from kenya, that will be the end of your life also. so the means of survival was 50—50. everybody was trying to come to kenya to look for means of survival, but we never expected that we would be going to a refugee camp. at the beginning, when the camp was established, it was just, like, you collect branches fr

we fled from mogadishu at the beginning of 1982, we travelled to the border of kenya.d a donkey cart and then we were trying to cross the border. you can be caught by the bandits at any time, if they caught you it was the end of your life. and if you are caught by the soldiers from kenya, that will be the end of your life also. so survival was 50—50. everybody was trying to come to kenya to look for means of survival but we never expected that we would be going to a refugee camp. at the beginning, you collect branches from a tree and you build a small hut and then covered by plastic. the environment is so harsh, it was dusty, the soil is not fertile, you cannot grow anything. the rainfall is so low. it is so hard sometimes it can reach up to a0 to 50 degrees. it wasn't safe at the beginning. it's like a city now. a big city. we thought we could have stayed there two years, but we never thought we would stay there 25 years. we cannot travel from dadaab to another part of kenya and we cannot go back to somalia, so necessity is the mother of invention. i got a scholarship

we have been in mogadishu, in a big city, with a good life. refugee camp in mogadishu, the war had started, there was militia groups everywhere. we were scared. dead bodies were scattered everywhere. just, like, things that you cannot imagine. we were attacked by the militia groups. i think there were about ten. they killed one of my uncles and then they shot my father that night. he was shot in his left leg, and then from the back, going out from this side. alhamdulillah, that night, my father survived. we fled from mogadishu in the beginning of 1992. we travelled to the border of kenya. we are very young at that time and my father could not walk, so we had a donkey cart and then we were trying to cross the border. having in mind that you can be caught by the bandits at any time. if they caught you, that's the end of your life. also, in the day, if you're caught by the soldiers from kenya, that will be the end of your life also. so, the means of survival was 50—50. everybody trying to come to kenya to look for means of survival, but we never

two examples are mogadishu and somalia and baghdad in iraq. that was kind of the story in 2003. we rapidly collapsed country, quickly took baghdad, installed a government to hold things in place, tried to embrace security. and with each day that situation became more and more protracted, became more and more dangerous. insurgencies started to mount, cripple activities started to take advantage of it. i don't see it likely that the taliban, while we say they have taken over afghanistan, they definitely do not control afghanistan. they don't have the kind of structure, while they've taken a lot of weapons and armorment, they've moved so quickly they haven't even secured their own rear areas. there's lots of pockets with different and competing interests. if i could emphasize anything about this, you're going to see intense competition between groups in afghanistan. there are terror groups to the north, like the islamic movement of uz bechlt kistan, a very different thing from just calling something al qaeda. there's al qaeda roots to the taliban, which are more in control. and the

officials say they don't want a repeat of mogadishu and blackhawk down. liz?zabeth: thank you, jennifer griffin, it's good to see you. okay, we're staying on this subject. joining us now, an afghan interpreter, california congressman and navy veteran mike garcia. first to you, zack. thank you both for joining us. your reaction to the president today. a lot of rhetoric that doesn't match the action on the ground. what did you think? [audio difficulty] elizabeth: okay, we're going to -- we're having trouble with your sound. we're going to come back to you as soon as we fix that technical difficulty. congressman, we've abandoned american allies to terrorists. this is worst than saigon. it doesn't make sense to take out military personnel when you need them to take them out, now we're putting military possessor until back in, but the president saying we will not do special force evacuations like france and the u.k. is doing. what do you say to that? >> it's amazing, liz. you must have an amazing intelligence committee working for you to come to those conclusions.

under strict orders, those 6,000ing troops, not to leave the base because the officials fear another mogadishuie. jackie: so much to break down here. here now, republican congressman scott perry from pennsylvania, member of the house foreign affairs committee. congressman, good to see you. i want to talk about the president's comments today was we know the -- because we know the situation is chaos. he was flanked today by vp kamala harris, secretary of state antony blinken, he came out 49 minutes late suggesting maybe there was some concern about what the messaging was going to be or some disagreement. he also said things that were just factually inaccurate. let's start with those prepared remarks. he said that we have eradicated al-qaeda from afghanistan. intelligence suggests otherwise. your thoughts. >> well, look, the one thing we can count on in joe biden, president or not, is he has never failed to fail x. since he's failed to listen, he has failed to learn, and now he is failing to lead. the intelligence community told him, at least some in the intelligence community, that this was goin

when we're talking specifically about terrorist organizations that they learned from beirut, from mogadishu so much as always for joining us, we do appreciate it. >>> still ahead, tammy christ, steve hill -- tammy bruce, steve hilton and mollie hemingway. the second hour of "varney" is next. ♪♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ deposit, plan and pay with easy tools from chase. simplicity feels good. chase. make more of what's yours. [engine revving] [car horn and collisions] [tires squealing] just think, he'll be driving for real soon. every new chevy equinox comes standard with chevy safety assist including automatic emergency braking. we did it again. verizon has been named america's most reliable network by rootmetrics. and our customers rated us #1 for network quality in america according to j.d. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row. proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. that's why we're building 5g right, that's why there's only one best network. that building you're trying to buy, - you should ten-x it. - ten-x it? t

whether it's the beirut bombings, the barracks bombings in beirut, whether it's mowing kish shoe or mogadishuilled this ongoing mission is extremely dangerous. ainsley: they seized our humvee weapons. tanks stole those from the afghan security forces that we paid for. video all over social media showing these images. what do we do? do we just let them get away with this? >> there is not going to be a repo team that's sent. in when the pentagon answered, you know, what they said about the plan to get those things back, there is no plan. there is no capability to do that. they are not going to go up and say hey, listen, do you have the title for this humvee? do you have the title for this? did you register this weapon? that's not going to happen. it's in the hands of the taliban. they are much better equipped for the duration forever. that's just the simple fact now. steve: you know, congressman, sometimes when the end is here you try to take it out of the country. otherwise worst case scenario you blow it up. this goes to show how fast the whole ball of wax unraveled it's like okay, we are run