former brexit party mep annunziata rees—mogg, now a conservative, i should add , and conservative, id, and the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. that's all coming up after the latest headlines . up after the latest headlines. >> tom thank you. good evening to you . well, as you've been to you. well, as you've been hearing, nigel farage has said he'll stand as the reform uk parliamentary candidate for clacton in essex at the next general election. speaking at a news conference in london this afternoon to confirm his change of heart, mr farage also announced he'll take over as leader of the party. >> so i am going to stand in this election. i'll be launching my candidacy at midday tomorrow in the essex seaside town of clacton, so midday tomorrow, clacton, so midday tomorrow, clacton at the end of the pier and in other news today, rishi sunak has denied he's stoking a culture war with his pledge to amend the equality act. >> the prime minister wants to make clear sex means biological sex rather than gender, and he says the current confusion over the legal definition can't be all

sirjacob rees—mogg is my panel. mackenzie and former labour minister bill rammell. i'm also joined by former labour mp stephen pound because after a double helping of the tories, what you really need is a double helping of the labour party. stephen, we're going to start with you. what did you make of that defence really of the last 14 years that we heard from lucy fraser ? she said that there's fraser? she said that there's been crisis after crisis into national crises that have been foisted upon the government. >> well, to be honest, you know, she was making a pretty decent fist of it, but it didn't cut across. look, we're not the only country that's affected by this every other country in europe, in fact, most of the countries in fact, most of the countries in the world have been affected by it. and you look at the electoral results in the other countries just over the weekend, incumbent governments are suffering all over. well, there is an argument here, tom, isn't there, that it's the what you're seeing in europ

rees—mogg. >> jacob rees—mogg. rees—mogg. >> jacob rees—mogg.ched when i, when i saw this story, children getting shorter, fatter and sicker. >> i thought they were thinking of me when i was a kid . of me when i was a kid. >> are are you a fat child? >> are are you a fat child? >> no, i wasn't a fat child. but do you know why? because my mother fed me properly. and this is the point i want to make. play football every day. if parents took total responsibility for what they put into their children's body and made sure they didn't have too much pocket money to waste on all those sugary foods, we wouldn't need this now. my mum gave us.i wouldn't need this now. my mum gave us. i mean, you've got to remember my mum, like other mums, came out of the second world war. they had no money and every penny counted, of course. so my mum could get, you know, three meals out of a potato, you know what i mean? >> and they were used to rationing, which went on to the early 50s when i was born. >> i was born with a ration book. how about that? okay >> now we wast

, and mep annunziata rees—mogg, and the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner.all coming up after your very latest headunes up after your very latest headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> tom 5mm >> tom thank you. good evening to you. well, reform uk launched its election contract with the british people today in south wales, describing it as a serious plan to reshape the way the country is run. the reform leader , nigel farage, said he leader, nigel farage, said he wouldn't call it a manifesto because too many voters have lost confidence in that term . mr lost confidence in that term. mr farage outlined plans to freeze all non essential immigration and take britain out of the european convention on human rights reform. uk would also introduce a new tax for employers who choose to hire workers from overseas, and earnings under £20,000 a year would be tax free. under reform , would be tax free. under reform, with extra funds made available by abolishing the government's net zero targets. mr farage says he wants to restore trust in british politics. >> the g

alongside with a former brexit party mep, nunziata rees—mogg. commentator and believer that actually all problems will be resolved once we rip up the rwanda plan at tom buick. i can tell you now, at home, not many people are agreeing with tom on that issue. sorry, tom. look, a new poll has revealed that most european countries apparently are pessimistic about the future of their countries growth. there's not a lot of happiness sweeping that continent. your thoughts on it? >> i think this reflects the general malaise of the west that we are not maintaining our growth and economic ability, and what we really need to do is re revitalise our countries and allow them to be free enough to compete with other countries that are overtaking us. >> how do we do that? >> how do we do that? >> we need to, scrap fake targets such as net zero. it's very good to become greener , but very good to become greener, but actually we're just imposing huge costs on personal households and businesses. we need to make employment easier. we need to cut the red tape. we ha

but would you watch keeping up with the rees—moggs ? all of that and the rees—moggs?o come. this is gb news britain's news channel, but don't too far. getting fun. this. the problem with working with two. brilliant women, right, by the way, is now we're obsessed with some of the things we can't talk about on air. but they do involve ed davey shorts. okay all i'm saying for now. any case, this. if you missed it, you'll have to catch up. this is gb news sunday. i'm dawn neesom and we're on your telly online and we're on your telly online and on digital radio now. we all love a bit of reality tv, don't we? keeping up with kardashians, you know, jungle. but but but but but would you watch keeping up but but would you watch keeping up with the rees—moggs? not kidding. it's been reported that jacob rees—mogg has been approached by disney+ to, well, film a fly on the wall series. pete discovery. disney. discovery, i think, is featuring him and his family, rees—mogg says, is very flattered and that he is actually thinking about it. so it's like it's like mogul box, isn't it?

, secretary, sir jacob rees—mogg, jacob, thank you for joining secretary, sir jacob rees—mogg, jacob, you forjoining me . jacob, thank you for joining me. and welcome back to your usual time slot. this is a pretty profound ruling today . profound ruling today. >> it's a very unfortunate ruling. it seems to me to be a very political ruling. it's interesting that the lower courts , as the high court and courts, as the high court and the and the court of appeal didn't take this route. they didn't take this route. they didn't think you should take this into account . and i'm this into account. and i'm deeply concerned that the supreme court is trying to make energy policy rather than simply interpret what planning law is meant to say, and therefore has deviated from what everyone thought the law was before. and this could potentially constrain our ability to use our own resources. it won't reduce global emissions. it will simply mean other countries make the money, not the united kingdom . money, not the united kingdom. >> and yet these lawyers have found this ruling and argued this rulin

and we're going to rees—mogg.t he's he is he is, he's been much missed from this time. of course he has. we're going to be talking about this extraordinary supreme court decision to stop extra oil and gas drilling, unless there's been taking into account whatever happens with that oil and gas far, far, far down the line. the industry didn't expect it. it's been used by activists to try and stop extra drilling. we're going to be diving deep into that. also, the labour party wants to end the gender pay gap. party wants to end the gender pay gap. we've got some data to suggest. perhaps the gender pay gapisnt suggest. perhaps the gender pay gap isn't all that it looks like. and of course, also we'll be talking about a new duty that the labour party wants to place on councils. tune in to see what it is. >> oh, very good indeed, tom harwood and we look forward to heanng harwood and we look forward to hearing from jacob rees—mogg again. we've been missing him on this show. i'll be back on sunday. but first, here's the we

, and mep annunziata rees—mogg, and the author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. headunes up after your very latest headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> tom 5mm >> tom thank you. good evening to you. well, reform uk launched

well back now to my panel and carter rees—mogg and aaron bastani annunziata.imply can't understand . and what on earth is understand. and what on earth is going on here? >> i think most tories can't understand what's going on here that it seems completely unforgivable that if you've got insider information, you are going out for financial gain from that, and if it was in the city of london, it would be completely illegal. as it happens with gambling, it's not illegal as i've read it or understand it. it is, however, quite clearly the wrong thing to do. >> very, very stupid. especially mps have a very good wage. they're on £90,000 a year. and these, these mps are allegedly making bets of less than £100. i mean, it's trivial . mean, it's trivial. >> well, i don't want to split hairs on this, because i don't support what they've done. but they're not mps are , of course. they're not mps are, of course. >> of course, no mps exist. the election's been called no . election's been called no. >> and both were just candidates. >> oh, there have been. there has been an

the former brexit party turned conservative mep annunziata rees—mogg and the author and broadcaster amye turner. that's all coming up after your headlines with polly middlehurst. >> tom. thank you. good evening. well, our top story tonight from the gb newsroom is that two little boys have become the youngest convicted murderers in britain since the killing of two year old james bulger in 1993. the 12 year olds were found guilty of murdering a man with a machete in a wolverhampton park last year. they stabbed 19 year old sean c zahawi in november in an unprovoked attack. the jury's decision to convict the boys was unanimous. his parents have said they'll never recovered from the loss of their son. in politics. the prime minister says he never considered quitting , despite considered quitting, despite heavy criticism over his early departure from d—day commemorations in normandy. it comes after the prime minister kept a low profile over the weekend, avoiding questions from reporters as rumours circulated that he may step down. he's now vowing to not stop fighting for the future of our cou

sir jacob rees—mogg. >> well, sirjacob rees—mogg. >> well, that's quite a shocker.promise it energy, with the promise it would bring a huge number of jobs to the area. >> and then rishi sunak visited the north west of england, continuing his campaign trail , continuing his campaign trail, he hit out at labour's handling of the diane abbott concern , of the diane abbott concern, suggesting that angela rayner is the one really in charge . the one really in charge. >> lib dems and sir ed davey pledged to extend free school meals to all primary school children, starting with those in poverty, and he challenged labour to match that policy. the snp were in glasgow calling on the government to commit to an emergency budget. immediately following the election. john swinney admitting that his party faces an uphill struggle . this faces an uphill struggle. this is what they had to say on day nine. >> we are announcing bold policies because that's what the situation demands. i want to deliver a more secure, secure future for everyone in our country. that requires a clear plan

yeah, i'm not quite sure that i see the rees—mogg. i mean, he's sired seven children, i suppose. it simply statistical. >> the man's side of this is basically name recognition . if basically name recognition. if you're well known enough, you're on the list. the female side of it, i think they're missing priti patel back in 2017. >> i was going to say that there was a civil servant who got paid £25,000 for being bullied by her, and at the time i remember like thinking in those heels, i would have paid her to bully me. so i can't help wondering if some of the votes for suella braverman are just people who got confused. >> could be that. >> could be that. >> but the whole thing is kind of sadistic. home secretary , of sadistic. home secretary, that one, you know, they're relatively interchangeable there, that seems like a selection option on the website. >> i narrow it down, but yeah , >> i narrow it down, but yeah, the whole thing is meant to be light hearted, but we actually had this conversation recently, and i, without really any human, were saying laura trott. >> she only got 6

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. >> god at home with the rees—moggs. >> yes, yes , so sir jacob >> yes, yes, so sir jacob rees—mogg but, you may have seen we've had all sorts of reality tv shows, haven't we? tyson fury at home with the fury's, the boxing champion in his. he's very large and, out there family . his would be jacob rees—mogg's mom would be very similar to that large family. >> i don't think it would be a similar to that. it would. what do you mean similar in production, but very, very different in terms of what they're up to. >> i mean, they are an interesting family , there's no interesting family, there's no doubt about this. and if he loses his seat, he's going to need some income. >> yeah, i'd imagine that because jacob rees—mogg is very much the voice of the family. i'm not sure we know too much about. >> oh no, no, that is very vocal and his wife is absolutely lovely, charming. >> i, who doesn't want to have breakfast with jacob rees—mogg. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i think i mean, an absolute i can't remember where it was. and i was reading in one of the other sunday papers this morning

the likes of sirjacob rees—mogg, likes of sir jacob rees—mogg, joanna. rishi sunak now is surely some kind of labour implosion, isn't it? >> yeah, and i mean the chances of that clearly. i mean, i know that labour have gone through that labour have gone through that thing this week, but nowhere near anything that the conservatives have gone through kind of consistently. and i think that that's the problem with the conservatives even though they've called this election, it's almost as if they're just addicted to attracting scandal or things going wrong. and i think that even if it's something that it isn't specifically the conservatives fault, just people looking around, reading the newspapers as things that actually naturally annoy people and show them the position that the country is in, whether it's to do with south west water saying boil your water, whether it's to do with other scandals, i think people equate that with the whole idea that the country is broken and change needs to come. so i think that obviously is always going to help kind of encoura

another big name would be sir jacob rees—mogg. here's what sirjacob rees—mogg.l election. >> and what i'm doing is going across our country to every corner of it, talking to as many people as possible about the choice at this election. and that choice is increasingly clear. we're just over a week into this, and what is clear is that we're the only ones who have a plan that is working when it comes to the economy . we're it comes to the economy. we're the only ones putting bold ideas on the table like a modern form of national service. the triple lock plus for pensioners , lock plus for pensioners, 100,000 new apprenticeships because that's how we'll deliver a secure future to everyone in our country . our country. >> ou joining me, i wouldn't want to be him today. i must admit he's putting a brave face on it. joining me now is former labour mp stephen pound and broadcaster and journalist claire muldoon. thank you very much for joining claire muldoon. thank you very much forjoining me. pleasure. now this is a devastating poll, isn't it, stephen? i mean, you know,

when jacob rees-mogg _ health paste etc. when jacob rees-mogg asked _ health paste etc. it suddenly possible? well, the point we are _ why is it suddenly possible? well, the point we are making _ why is it suddenly possible? well, the point we are making is - why is it suddenly possible? -ii the point we are making is that the numbers we are seeing are too high, we are committed to bringing them down. we have already started to plan and have had an effect, and those figures have come down by 10%. we recognise managing immigration is not easy, and that's why we need to take it seriously. one of the things where we do have control the numbers of work visas, and we are going to set a number on that. it is difficult, it is challenging, and thatis difficult, it is challenging, and that is why the mat will do the number crunching and give us the evidence—based numbers so ministers can make decisions. we are committed to controlling our borders in stark contrast with the labour party who have opposed and voted against over 130 times, 139 times, all our border control measures.

that the conservatives are set to have the lowest number of mps in over a century — naming jacob rees—moggso what does this poll tell us? patrick english is the director of political analytics at yougov. if the election was being held right now and people had the current vote intentions and what they were telling was a reflection of what would happen at the ballot box, then labour would be on course for a historic win, the kind of win they've never seen before. we are currently seeing that they would have 422 constituencies, 422 wins, while the conservatives would be reduced down to 1li0. and it's quite a remarkable turnaround. we cast our mind back only a few years ago and borisjohnson was coming down with a huge majority, a constituency for every single day of the year, and we are saying in the course of one parliament not only has the labour party managed to reduce that majority to nothing. and not only have the ability majority of their own of that size, and not only have they built a majority of their own of that size, but they have gone even further, doubled the size of the majority

we've seen the likes ofjacob rees—mogg in the past talk about emerging.d like to see you nigel farage back in the tory fold. it speaks the way how some see the parties. i think there is a fundamental split between the tory party with how to deal with reform and whether it's party with how to deal with reform and whether its views added an enemy or an ally on the right. luca; enemy or an ally on the right. lucy fisher, enemy or an ally on the right. lucy fisher. thank _ enemy or an ally on the right. lucy fisher, thank you _ enemy or an ally on the right. lucy fisher, thank you very _ enemy or an ally on the right. lucy fisher, thank you very much indeed. a reminder, nick's interview with rishi sunak will be broadcast tonight on panorama at 8 o'clock, on bbc one, here on bbc news and on iplayer. sir ed davey launched the liberal democrats' election manifesto today — the first of the main parties to put their pledges on paper. he promised if the lib dems were elected that everyone in england would be entitled to free at—home personal care, the two—child ben

well, rees—mogg has already, yes, rees—mogg as well.t of tories who are think who are saying it privately. >> yeah. but of course then he's still got to become an mp. that's the thing that we've got to not forget. >> well he can lead a movement, it can be a movement. >> but i get so frustrated by this because everybody is attacking sort of ad hominem attacks on nigel farage. >> there's even people on, on ex. posting photos of his outfits. they don't like the sort of blue blazer and the chinos. look it. why is when okay when nigel speaks. when nigel farage speaks, why are thousands of people turning out? why is this resonating with people? it's like trump, rather than actually addressing why this is resonating with real people, you can laugh at them . people, you can laugh at them. you can call them far right. look at what's happening in europe. you can call them far right. these are real people. their voices matter. if democracy means anything, it means we get a vote and then we respond with that vote. so you can attack nigel farage all

sirjacob rees—mogg themselves.es—mogg has urged rishi sunak to strike a deal with nigel farage before the general election. successive opinion polls on wednesday and thursday showed reform just two percentage points behind the conservatives current projections suggest that mr farage's party is on track to cost the tories dozens of constituencies at the next election, of course, july the fourth, potentially reducing them to fewer than 100 seats. so could a deal be mutually beneficial or do reform uk have enough momentum to go it alone? let's get the views of former conservative mp and the country's first ever ukip mp and the co—founder of vote leave, douglas carswell. douglas great to have you back on the show again. would an election hello there. would an election pact douglas suit both sides ? douglas suit both sides? >> i'm absolutely delighted that nigel is running in my old seat and i hope he wins. but absolutely no. there must be no pact. why? because the conservative party in its current form, is not worth pr

yougov mrp poll predicts a 194—seat labour majority, with senior tories — likejeremy hunt, jacob rees—moggith a new pledge — a cap on the number of visas that will be issued each year to migrant workers. what we've seen with labour, who have voted 139 times against any and every border control measure we put forward, a complete open—door policy does not work. it does not work for local communities, it doesn't work for local authorities when they are trying to plan for public services. we are the only party with a credible plan to professionally manage migration so that it supports the british economy without putting undue pressure on local communities stop. net migration, the difference in the number of people immigrating to the uk and emigrating, decreased last year, but remains higher than at the start of this parliament. the figure to december to 2023 was 685,000 - that is a fall of approximately 10% from the ons�*s updated estimate of 764,000, for the year to december 2022. you'll probably hear rishi sunak refer to that 10% fall tonight. that said, net migration is still nearly four ti

that the conservatives are set to have the lowest number of mps in over a century — naming jacob rees—moggant shapps among those who could lose their seats. so what does this poll tell us? patrick english is the director of political analytics at yougov. if the election was being held right now, and people had the current vote intentions for and what they were telling us was a reflection of what would happen at the ballot box, then labour would be on course for an historic win, the kind of when they've never seen before. they would have 422 constituencies, while the conservatives would be reduced down to mo. it's quite a remarkable turnaround, cast our minds back to only a few years ago and boris johnson was sauntering down with a huge majority of seats for every single day of the year. we are saying that in the course of one parliament, not only have labour managed to reduce that majority to nothing, and have a majority of their own of that size, but they've gone even further, doubling the majority of the size borisjohnson was able to put together, and putting a coalition for notjust the

it's something i think jacob rees—mogg and others and liz truss have urged the prime minister i would think the united kingdom has already done far more than all of our major competitors . and let's not competitors. and let's not forget, if we move even faster and we increase costs for companies, particularly those that are very dependent on energy, like the steel industry and others, that will make our competitive edge blunted, on the international arena . international arena. >> so. so sunak should do that. yeah, he should just you should just do it . yeah, he should just you should just do it. but what if he doesn't do it? he's got he's got four and a bit weeks now . four and a bit weeks now. >> well, let's wait and see what's in the manifesto. but to go back to your earlier point on immigration, i to like every other conservative candidate, wants to see a reduction of both legal and illegal migration. the only game in town for illegal migration is the rwanda issue. and planes would have and will take off this summer. sir keir starmer has committed himself to scrapping the whole sc

the former brexit party turned conservative mep annunziata rees—mogg and the author and broadcaster amyour headlines with polly middlehurst. >> tom. thank you. good evening. well, our top story tonight from the gb newsroom is that two little boys have become the youngest convicted murderers in britain since the killing of two year old james bulger in 1993. the 12 year olds were found guilty of murdering a man with a machete in a wolverhampton park last year. they stabbed 19 year old sean c zahawi in november in an unprovoked attack. the jury's decision to convict the boys was unanimous. his parents have said they'll never recovered from the loss of their

lucy fraser also be speaking to jacob rees—mogg, the regular person who is absolutely, but also discussing announcing in just two days time. >> all right. stay tuned for state of the nation. lucy. lucy fraser, i can see through this door here. but first, here's the weather with aidan mcgivern, and i'll be back at this time tomorrow, 7 pm. have a great evening . evening. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest update from the met office for gb news. there will be fewer showers during the next 24 hours with an increased chance of clear spells, particularly in the west, as higher pressure moves in. but we keep the northerly air flow so we keep that cool air with us and as a result, where we do see clearing skies overnight, it is going to turn fairly chilly. the clearest skies will be across central and western scotland , central and western scotland, parts of northern ireland and western england and wales, although still the possibility of a shower or two running into west wales and c

don't think i could, but that means the only people you could potentially go out with are jacob rees—mogg >> are they watching? >> are they watching? >> no. i'm joking, both are both happily married. >> basing your whole relationship potential marriage on politics. yes, it should be based on love. >> no, no, no, it's based on she loves politics. what if brad pitt turned out to be a lefty or george clooney? >> it probably is. >> it probably is. >> it probably is. >> i might make an exchange. there you go. >> we got to the truth, let's talk a little bit, if we can, about a male newspaper report that a wave of young, healthy women are needing a&e care after taking appetite suppressing drugs , ozempic and wegovy bought drugs, ozempic and wegovy bought onune drugs, ozempic and wegovy bought online under false pretences. >> it comes as the nhs top doctor issued a warning that these powerful drugs are only designed to help diabetics and the obese, and shouldn't be abused to help holidaymakers become beach body ready, emergency medics told the paper in confidence they're seeing cases of young, be

former brexit party mep annunziata rees—mogg, now a conservative, i should add , and conservative, iaster amy nicole turner. that's all coming up after the latest headlines . up after the latest headlines. >> tom thank you. good evening to you

rememberjacob rees—mogg's kids being showered and stuff . it's all part of that and stuff.e thing. and yeah, this guy needs to go to jail. and people needs to go to jail. and people need to understand that there are going to be ramifications. >> and he needs to be made fun of for looking like rodney trotter stocks. yeah, i think he was like, we can throw we can throw rubble at him. >> sixth sense killer. >> sixth sense killer. >> josh we have the we have the daily mail. now rishi sunak has decided enough is enough when it comes to immigration. it's time to act. yeah. >> what he's going to do now that he's going out of power is he's going to reduce, immigration. it's a crazy idea , immigration. it's a crazy idea, why had nobody told it? why didn't he? >> why didn't he think of it? oh, i knew there was something i forgot to do, so rishi sunak vows to halve immigration and then keep reducing it every yean then keep reducing it every year, as he warns labour would axe rwanda migrant flights in manifesto. so there's a quite an amusing thing here because, he says , that migration

and he said he wants to attract the likes of braverman and rees—mogg and others to reform. >> and het he's gone back on. i think that's the crude strategy. but i'll tell you this, i think the tory party if they allow him in, will rue the day that they do that because they will be confirming they've moved away from the centre ground of british politics. and ultimately, whatever people say, the centre ground is the only place that you can win a general election. >> but then you could argue that the centre ground has moved. i mean, the fact that this manifesto, which wouldn't have looked out of place in a 1980s or 1990s tory government, is now seen as somehow extreme. it's just it's a right wing manifesto, isn't it, just it's a right wing manifesto, isn't it , because the manifesto, isn't it, because the centre ground has moved, bill, you've got to accept that. >> but but look at some of the substance, you know, apparently reform are far right. >> well, if reform are far right what are nazis. okay. >> but they're not they're not actually standing up for the little man, as you said. you

don't think i could, but that means the only people you could potentially go out with are jacob rees—mogg> are they watching? >> are they watching? >> no. i'm joking, both are both happily married. >> basing your whole relationship potential marriage on politics. yes, it should be based on love. >> no, no, no, it's based on she loves politics. what if brad pitt turned out to be a lefty or george clooney? >> it probably is. >> it probably is. >> it probably is. >> i might make an exchange. there you go. >> we got to the truth, let's talk a little bit, if we can, about a male newspaper report that a wave of young, healthy women are needing a&e care after taking appetite suppressing drugs , ozempic and wegovy bought drugs, ozempic and wegovy bought onune drugs, ozempic and wegovy bought online under false pretences. >> it comes as the nhs top doctor issued a warning that these powerful drugs are only designed to help diabetics and the obese, and shouldn't be abused to help holidaymakers become beach body ready, emergency medics told the paper in confidence they're seeing cases of young, beau

talking about not only sunak and hunt losing their seats, but cleverly suella braverman penny mordaunt moggtimated priti patel, tobias ellwood, gillian keegan so it's just like it's everyone. i mean it's like a scene in goodfellas where de niro just whacks everyone. >> i think the daily telegraph is a superb newspaper and they're pretty even. i do wonder, however , that when these wonder, however, that when these polls get this disastrous, that it might be a way of nudging the tory voters and saying, look, this is a possibility , maybe you this is a possibility, maybe you should change your mind. i don't believe, actually. and i know you're, voting labour because it a tie . no, you don't know. i a tie. no, you don't know. i don't know that. i don't know that at all. i don't know that at all. and that's a fair point, josh said seriously, which made me feel bad. but i don't think they're all going to labour. i just don't . i just don't see just don't. i just don't see every other vote going to laboun every other vote going to labour. you're in a bubble, mate i >> -- >> i, -- >>i,i >> i, i thi

and then forbes in the snp, kate forbes, jacob rees—mogg sort of battled out it out, but he, you knowed a lot of criticism for his catholic views. >> yeah, they kind of accept it from him because most people believe he was around at the birth of christ. yeah. >> i can't let this go until we comment on this in hindu. this is rishi talking about his faith. he says in hinduism there's a concept of duty called dharma, which roughly translates it's about being, about doing your duty and not having a focus on the outcomes of it. isn't that an unfortunate . yeah, so that an unfortunate. yeah, so basically he's admitting that i'm going to do this even though i'm going to do this even though i'm not going to lose head down. >> i'm working away and i'm not thinking about what's going to happen. >> he could have been a bit more outcome focused yeah, but but if i'm being very fair, though, he did , that is what rishi is did, that is what rishi is about. he's sort of a hard working get on with it behind the scenes. he just doesn't understand politics. hence he won't be prime minister for long, but