mohamed el erian ceo and co-chief investment officer at pimco. wonderful to have you. thursday was stunning on wall street. intraday decline for the dow jones industrial average down almost 1,000 points before cutting the losses. can you talk to us about the potential of a contagion? tell our viewers what the fear is in this market right now. >> maria, think of a sand mound where grain after grain of sand is being added and nothing happens. and then suddenly, the whole thing starts coming down. that is a little bit what happened this week. a few things were in place. first, people recognized that greece is not a liquidity issue but a solvency issue. which is another way of saying it is very hard to solve. secondly, people realize that it's not just about greece, but it's about europe and potentially it's about the globe. and thirdly, you had a technical hitch, if you like, a glitch in the middle of all this. put all that together and you have massive volatility, people's stepping back from the markets, liquidity erodes and you get these very big price movementses that

so that yeah, there is a possibility that khalid sheikh mohammed could be detained under the laws ofwar stack my final question, madam chair, what, sir, is your backup plan to protect the safety of americans if you cannot rely on an immigration detention law? what's the plan here if those things they'll? >> well, as i think i indicated in the interview that you mentioned, there is -- i have great confidence in our ability in the first instance to try the case fairly and effectively, and to get the good result. there are beyond that though, there are other options that we have beyond the trial. there are immigration laws. there are the laws of war, and with regard to the khalid sheikh mohammed, there are other charges that could be brought against him because of a other acts he did beyond what happened on september the 11th. >> i guess time will tell. thank you, madam chair. >> a gentleman's time is expired. i am now very delighted to yield to the distinguished new member of this committee, mr. deutsch from florida for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chair. delighted to have the opp

joining us now to talk more about this, mohamed el-erian, c.e.o. of pimco, the world's largest bond fund. nice to have you on the program. >> thank you, susie. >> susie: let me begin by just asking you what are the risks of all these events, that spanish bailout, the debt crisis in greece, the falling euro. what's the intact and the risk of all of that to american businesses and our economy? >> susie, we went into the weekend knowing that europe had a debt issue and europe had a growth issue. we come out of the weekend with the news that europe may also have a banking system issue. the minute you bring in the banking system it's like an amplifier, something that we discovered in this country a couple of years ago. banks have a way of amplifying shocks in the system because banks are like the oil in your car. they link up so many different parts. and the problem for the u.s. is that not only is it going to have to cope with a growth issue out of europe. europe is an important export market. we sell a lot to europe. europe is going to grow less. now

almost every sector added a bit during the month and that is a very good sign. >> and mohamed el-erian, what do you see in the jobs market. >> same as mark. we are finally seeing all these cyclical tailwinds translate into job creation. and the question is can this continue given what else is going on in the global economy. but on a stand-alone basis, today's report was strong not only in terms of the headline number but also there were parts revisions that created even more jobs over the last few months. >> and just to explain, mr. el-erian why the unemployment number went up, more people are coming back to the workforce. in theory that is a positive right? >> correct. at people see their neighbors getting jobs, they are encouraged to start looking for jobs again. so ironically you get both job creation. but you also get more people looking for jobs so the unemployment rate goes up. in this case it went up to 9.9%. >> so the question, mark zandi is the pace, the rate of growth of jobs. and it sustained these people coming in. and the number of jobs that we need to create to get the ec

it makes more sense to try khalid shaikh mohammed in a military tribunal. the president has removed any kind of demonstration that this will be a fair trial from this whole situation by pronouncing that khalid shaikh mohammed is guilty and it is going to be convicted and i think is said is going to be executed. >> larry: have you ever said that in prosecution, he will be convicted or executed? have you ever said that yourself? >> i certainly never said the last part, whether i ever said somebody would be convicted, i don't think so, but gosh, i've said so many things, you probably could find a tape somewhere where i said something like that. i don't think i ever did. there were a couple times where maybe -- i think internally with my staff, i certainly said we darn well better convict this guy. we got such a good case, if we lose it, we should be ashamed of ourselves. >> larry: front page today's new york daily news, a photo of faisal shahzad and the headline is how many more? what's your gut tell you about the seriousness of the threat of home grown terror

many muslims believe that their faith forbids images of the prophet mohammed. >>> an american church worker is back in the u.s. after being imprisoned in haiti since late january. laura silsby and nine other baptists were arrested as they tried to take more tan 30 haitian children out of the country after the quake. they said they were trying to arrange adoptions for the children. silsby was convicted of arranging illegal travel and sentenced to time already served. >>> in rome, nearly 150,000 people rallied in st. peter's square in support of pope benedict xvi and his handling of the clergy's sex abuse scandal. some carried banners that read "together with the pope." addressing the crowd, benedict again spoke of the need to purify the church. but the crisis continues. this week the vatican sought to remove itself from a lawsuit filed by american victims of the clergy sex abuse scandal. >>> in a motion to dismiss the kentucky case, the vatican argued it is not liable for the actions of bishops because it said bishops are not employees of the vatican. meanwhile, the vatican said it wo

or did speak at the baptism of the jordan or did take those checks of mohammed. where does that make you a fundamentalist? i think it's an extraordinary thing to believe. if you say you don't really believe that, you're not religious. fundamentalism says there has been a revelation. atheism to say there haven't heard polices what likes to split the difference that can't be split. >> i think we might even be a lot to discover the slight difference between christopher and me. i mean, maybe it's more, but my view is that if people are religious and gain from it satisfaction, nourishment, solace, whatever it is, my view is that point of difference. when that comes into the public arena and people of religious belief try to force the values of the relief unto me or shoot a society in which i live, then it might business. and i have very strong views about whether revision should be allowed. but in the privacy of one of those phones mine, it's one game from a certain set of ideas however cockeyed they might be, my view -- [inaudible] >> i couldn't agree more. they're l

khalid shaikh mohammed is the professed mastermind of the 9/11 attacks.carried a pakistani passport and was captured in pakistan seven years ago. he's being held at guantanamo bay. ramzi bin aled she is the yemeni accused with coordinating the 9/11 attack, he's also in guantanamo bay right now. ramzi yousef was the mastermind of the 1993 world trade center bombing. he was arrested in pakistan two years later, brought to the united states, he was convicted first for an airline bombing and then for the new york attack. he's serving life without parole. >>> we're going to have a lot more on the breaking news coming up, but there's other stories we're monitoring as well, including four stories of steel and concrete. it's the best hope right now for minimizing the disaster in the gulf of mexico. we're going to show you how this giant containment camp works. >>> plus, we have new details of a massive recall of children's over-the-counter medicine. what government inspectors found inside the manufacturing plant. stand by for that. nts fill your household, purina

we drove to comedy central which runs to south park which runs prophet mohammed and had death threats way. congressman king do you believe that's a possibility? commissioner kelly could not exclude it from the list. >> yeah, i think this is something the police are looking into. a number of other things they are looking into that is one of them. after the press made after several weeks. that's one of a number of possible motives possible threats. it could end up being something entirely different. but that's one of the things they would be looking at. along with a number of others. >> detective bo deedle they called it amateurish initially. doesn't seem amateurish to me wires connecting to gasoline and propane tanks and probably fertilizer. >> it didn't go off. things started popping. you can't call anything amateurish. what was in that truck could have killed a lot of people. we have to realize this is new york city and we are the target. we are always going to be a target. the great treasure chest here is it didn't go off. you have fingerprints and dna they are going to catch this g

we drove to comedy central which runs to south park which runs prophet mohammed and had death threats their way. congressman king do you believe that's a possibility? commissioner kelly could not exclude it from the list. >> yeah, i think this is something the police are looking into. a number of other things they are looking into that is one of them. after the press made after several weeks. that's one of a number of possible motives possible threats. it could end up being something entirely different. but that's one of the things they would be looking at. along with a number of others. >> detective bo deedle they called it amateurish initially. doesn't seem amateurish to me wires connecting to gasoline and propane tanks and probably fertilizer. >> it didn't go off. things started popping. you can't call anything amateurish. what was in that truck could have killed a lot of people. we have to realize this is new york city and we are the target. we are always going to be a target. the great treasure chest here is it didn't go off. you have fingerprints and dna they are going to catch

muslim is warning "south park" creators they could be killed because of the depiction of the prophet mohammed's show has taken on just about every religious faith, we've got to admit that. he also mocked osama bin laden in an historic piece. watch. >> this is a message to all american infidels. prepare to die in a sea of holy fire. you will be punished for your decadent ways on the first day of radaman. wait. wait a minute. what did i say? radaman. blah blah blah. ramadan. what is that? maybe dennis rodman will punish you with his crazy hair. no. what is that? right, right. yeah, no. okay. okay. all right. let's go again. >> larry: do you get any flack on that? >> we didn't get any flack. i think probably the difference there is that bin laden is not a deity. >> larry: making fun of him. >> it struck us as kind of funny this very extreme situation set in the very mundane setting and has to do takes and can't not laugh. >> larry: did you ever get letters from the fcc? >> we have had a few what are called letters of inquiry i'm sure -- i don't know. i don't know if you had any run-ins. >> larry

and only through christ and christ alone because he's the only one in history to pay debt of sin, mohammedidn't take your sins and die for you, only one person made that claim, that is the record jesus christ and if we accept by faith, faith, you don't have to work for it or sleep on nails or walk across fiery coals, by faith. and that is what i want people to know. >> thank you very much. s. e., great to be with you. give my kindest regards to your father and i hope, all of you will remember that thursday, is the national day of prayer and you don't need permission from congress to get on your knees and pray. you can do it without their permission. fact is you can do it without their knowledge and i'm pretty sure they won't know. i hope you remember the national day of prayer, chairman franklin graham, thank you, very much. [applause]. >> when we come back... a most interesting conversation with a man who helped bring down the entire mob in cleveland, ohio. now he wants to run for congress, has he taken on something bigger than challenging the mob? we'll talk to him next and find out. [ m

the other five are believed also to be friends and perhaps facilitators of mohammed shahzad.ed him get to training camps or wherever else he wanted to go and whomever else he wanted to meet when he was in pakistan. at least that's what the pakistani officials here believe at the moment tonight. little by little we are learning more about faisal shahzad's pakistani roots. earlier this evening we sent a local reporter to a small village outside of peshawar in the northwest of the country. the locals there said that shahzad's family is originally from this little village. but the family moved some time ago to peshawar. and a local tv reporter went to the family house in peshawar this evening. local tv is now showing pictures of family and friends arriving and leaving, in a way con doling the family members which would be according to local custom. we've also heard the family has another home, one in islamabad, here in islamabad, the capital. where the parents are tonight at this point is anyone's guess. shahzad's father is a retired air force officer. so the family would be comf

who i'm always very proud of. >> larry: you've been critical of the idea of trying khalid shaikh mohammedvilian court in new york. what about the possibility of trying faisal shahzad there, because that's where that crime -- where would you try him? >> well, i think we could get a change of venue for him most any place. we know that if you have one of these trials in new york city, it's a couple hundred million dollars in security. we all know that new york city is one of the prime targets for acts of terror. the mayor, all of the authorities don't want that trial to take place there. look at the disruption to people's daily lives, much less the security aspects of it. >> larry: our guest, senator john mccain. we'll be right back. he's at the russell rotunda on capitol hill. don't go away. i got into one of the most expensive schools in the country! [ male announcer ] when stress gives you heartburn with headache... alka-seltzer gives you relief fast. [ low male ] plop, plop. [ high male ] fizz, fizz. i have asthma. and that's what it sounded like when my symptoms came back. i'd get this

. >> what if we try khalid shaikh mohammed in lower manhattan it means is something like this is an opportunity -- new york is already a target. if you have the other impetus to go after new york you would have these things every week if you have a year long trial in manhattan. it's not just keeping the terrorists safe but the rest of new york safe. >> i disagree with that. i think the nut jobs need any kind of motivation they dream up. it could be they have a mother in law they don't like. who knows. who know where is this will end up. >> tell me more respectly why the device didn't detonate? >> we know there were two timing circuits with two clocks one they said led to the large container. it may have been one was an arming device which is a count downtimer. it's safe to move while it's in the vehicle. the second timer takes over after the device is armed. that's a count downtimer. it's not the first time somebody in new york trying to deliver and i am pro advised explosive device hit one of our fine potholes and caused it to detonate accidentally. >> it's not the first. >> if you are going t

years ago when a small newspaper in the area of denmark published some cartoons of the figure of mohammedhich was strongly for his cannot be represented. it's not a been a great value or any great force. it's believed to be by people who like to find cultural reasons as they often do for moral cowardice. it was an organized attempt to restore the danish economy i boycotts coordinated by some very extreme denmark with certain partners in other countries. there was an open season on danish people, many of whom were attacked in other countries. by the end of it, we think at least 300 people were killed and mumbled and danish. the rice was doing christians in nigeria in countries which are never normally such as two down the danish embassy without any police intervention. it had every appearance of a horrible orchestration. what can be a clear case? here's a small scandinavian democracy which fairly heroic reparable to not see of them. it citizens to people, its government does not allowed by sense of the press. but what was that the government clears the paper and apologize for his purity si

we drove to comedy central which runs to south park which runs prophet mohammed and had death threatsheir way. congressman king do you believe that's a possibility? commissioner kelly could not exclude it from the list. >> yeah, i think this is something the police are looking into. a number of other things they are looking into that is one of them. after the press made after several weeks. that's one of a number of possible motives possible threats. it could end up being something entirely different. but that's one of the things they would be looking at. along with a number of others. >> detective bo deedle they called it amateurish initially. doesn't seem amateurish to me wires connecting to gasoline and propane tanks and probably fertilizer. >> it didn't go off. things started popping. you can't call anything amateurish. what was in that truck could have killed a lot of people. we have to realize this is new york city and we are the target. we are always going to be a target. the great treasure chest here is it didn't go off. you have fingerprints and dna they are going to catch th

the plane was filled with smoke, says ummer farook mohammed. there was total chaos. part of the plane broke off. i jumped out. there was another passenger in front of me, so i pushed him out. he believes a tire burst. another said it felt as if the plane hit something. mangalore is a hill top airport where pilots report that landings can be tricky. but officials deny it is dangerous. >> i would like to emphasize that from 2006 there have been over 32,000 landings in this mangalore runway. >> reporter: they say there was no may day call from the pilots. >> they are experienced pilots that have gone into this airport a number of times. the real question will be what was different this time than any of the other times they made this approach and landing? >> reporter: among the rescuers at the crash scene there were also relatives. people who had come to the airport to meet loved ones, and rushed to find them in the wreckage. they are now left looking for answers. and tonight, lester, investigators are working to find those answers, trying to figure out just what went wr

holder has taken a huge hit promoting civilian trials for people like khalid sheikh mohammed.her than being milk toast about the war on terror in general. yesterday eric holder was drilled by the house judiciary committee especially about his avoidance of the islamic terror description. >> do you feel that these individuals might have been incited to take the actions that they did because of radical islam? >> because of? >> radical islam. >> i mean we are in the process now of talking to mr. shahzad to try to understand what it is that drove him to take the action. >> but radical islam could have been one of the reasons? >> a variety of reasons. >> was radical islam one of them. >> there are a variety of reasons why people do these things. some of them are potentially religious. >> all i'm asking is if you think among those variety of reasons lad dick call islam might have been one of the reasons that the individuals took the steps that they did. >> you say radical islam, i think those people who espouse a version of islam that is not -- >> are you uncomfortable attributing an

the plant track khalid sheik mohammed and other 9/11 conspirators has been derailed. no institution that i know of is better equipped to show the world how america deals with then with the trial was originally intended to occur. i hope these plans can be put back on track. the administration has taken some steps to curb the misuse of .he state's secrets privilege while the justice department has issued new guidelines, the privilege continues to be overused and i think they need for uniform and consistent handling by the courts remains. it is true, and i commend the administration, for ending the practice of secret prisons and calling to halt to waterboarding an enhanced derogation -- interrogation techniques. these tarnished the nation's reputation as a beacon of liberty. and this served as a recruiting tool for our enemies. the attorney general has released rejected torture memos and has brought a much needed attitude of transparency to the department. this has helped us understand the workings of the office of legal counsel which has sigrid opinions which may have h

why bring khali shaikh mohammed and all of his hate to new york city and bring more attention and moremore valuable target for al-qaida? so i think that even though the administration kind of stepped back from having the hearings here or the trials here, in his testimony just two weeks ago, attorney general eric holder did not disavow it, he didn't back off and i think it's time now for the new york legislature and the mayor and the concerned citizens of new york to say enough is enough. we're not going to have that here. >> another huge story we've been talking about in the last week is this immigration law signed in arizona. and now, whether or not on capitol hill they will actually start discussing comprehensive immigration reform, a report out that rahm emanuel, the chief of staff to obama does not think it's a good idea because of midterm elections coming up. your thoughts? >> right, one of the things that occurred to me in talking about immigration in 2007, immigration is a divisive issue. not just divisive within the republican party. it's an american issue that we're all grappl

mohammed rehan, the militant group has strong ties to the taliban and child. rehan was taken into custody on tuesday. officials say at this point, there is nothing definitive connects shahzad to any extremist group. >> we are investigating those, but as to where that investigation takes us, it's still too early to make that judgment. >> reporter: a federal law enforcement official says there's no indication that shahzad had any associates here in the united states. he appears to have prepared and placed the bomb in times square on his own. one component, m 88 fire works were purchased from the phantom fireworks store in northeastern pennsylvania. he spent about $100 eight weeks ago. >> nothing that we sell that would make any kind of impact. the only thing remotely connected would be a fuse, but our fuse, the safety fuse burns so slowly that it would not be very effective. so honestly, i think this fellow was barking up the wrong tree when he thought these fire crackers would do something. >> reporter: just how close were authorities to losing him? according t

town called cohat, and we are hearing reports he may have links to a military group named jaish-e-mohammed. do any of those things sound important in understanding what we are dealing with and how connected he was? >> he was from a very prominent family as i just discussed. he was from an area where there was a lot of militant groups operating. his family has a mom in peshawar. he went to karachi, which has a lot of militant activity. went peshawar, and then down to waziristan. the reason there have been suspected links to jaish emohammed, a kashmiri group, he is an ethnic kashmiri, and, two, the person who is now under arrest he met up with at karachi was arrested at a mosque that has links to that militant group. the question is, did he have associations with people involved in militant groups? it seems he certainly did. did they actively recruit him or did he come on his own? now, if this was a person living in the states who had quite a good life, a successful life and then was disaffected and decided to quit his job and come back here, it is very possible he came back on his own and s

they decided khalid shaikh mohammed and other mass murderers should be tried in civilian courts insteadbunals. that is the wrong thing. they have revoked the prior administration policies allowing officials to listen in on phone calls overseas where one of the parties was here and expected of terrorism. all of these are steps weakened security and made tragic possible events like last saturday night in times square much harder to prevent. >> just seconds ago we heard from senator lieberman who said we should consider stripping citizenship of those people who get involved in terror activity. presumably you agree with that? >> well, i agree with that, except i just heard this for the first time. hearing senator lieberman, he's saying if you're accused, then you should be stripped of citizenship. i don't see how you can do that, because, you know, we are a system of laws. you're innocent until proven guilty. i don't think you can simply charge someone with something and because of that charge strip them of their citizenship. >> our justice correspondent pete williams is reporting today tha

in an interview with in this scene news -- nbc news, obama declared that mohammed will be convicted and executed. thenefore the senate, and you stated "failure is not an option." i do not know how that undermined our system if we hope that. you and mr. obama must know that he and his co-conspirators are awarded the presumption of innocence and our courts . does the department believe they can defend assertions that the statement have painted a civilian jury or commission to such a degree as to deny them theresumption of innocence? >> maybe i can clear this up when i said the year is not an option, that is not a prediction. [unintelligible] it is a way in which a coach talks to the players about winning the game. that is what i was saying. >> i will give you that. the notion that obama said that he will be convicted and executed. that is a notion they have said many times. does that undermine our system and afford attorneys the opportunity to say the you tainted the jury pool and we are not afforded the presumption of innocence? >> we would have an extensive law they would have to go thr

and one is a man who was picked up from a mosqueÑi related with an extreme group, mohammed aran, ando report, he travelled with shahzad across the tribal belt last year. we don't have any information about what they're saying simply was they were not picked up, if you like, by the police, but they are in the custody of the intelligence agencies. so thereÑi is very little information leakingñr out about their whereabouts or what they're saying. >> do authorities there have any idea how shahzad became radicalized. >> that's the big question hanging over the investigation. >> shahzad apparently received training, and have investigators looked into that. is there any reason to accept or doubt his claim at the moment? >> as we understand it, this is añvery early onçó in his interrogation, after he was arrested last monday. it has cast new light on claim by the pakistani taliban who are based there that they are somehow involved in manipulating this attempt to attack by faisal shahzad. but we dongtr have any hard information at this stageç to eitherçó corroborate what he is saying or refut

she was referring to the way i contrasted jesus, the man of peace, with mohammed the conqueror who had declared war on unbelievers. but you have no respect for how jesus got there. this is a serious practice for me. when i take on every single day. it's about seeing people in the fullness of their humanity. they are not just child molesters, rapists, adulters. and how pathetically easy to pat yourself on the back for not being a child molester if you have no desire for the first place, resisting is no problem. she went on, back to the practice. if you see someone in the fullness of their humanity, you see how they are acting out their open confusion and suffering. this does not justify hurtful or even acts. it doesn't even always inspire forgiveness. but if you see someone this way, you respond more in sadness than in anger. and that is simply a more excellent state of being. even if you've never had this experience and the pity, respect the experience of those who have. i'm not talking about an idea either. this is a full bodied understanding of another person. this practice has, in f

and one of those was, we believe, his good friend, mohammed rahan.uspected to be a militant leader. the two of them drove together to peshawar when faisal shahzad arrived in karachi from the u.s. in july last year. now, a source privy to the investigation, the ongoing investigation, told nbc news that they are also investigating faisal shahzad's possible link with an outlaw group. this group is the so-called -- one of the so-called punjabi groups. little by little we're learning more about faisal shahzad's pakistani roots. earlier today we sent a local reporter to a small village outside of peshawar. locals there said shahzad's family originates from this little village. but the family moved to peshawar some time ago. local tv channels went to this family house in peshawar this evening and showed -- and they're showing pictures of family and friends arriving and leaving. in a3Ûum way you could say it's condoling with family members, so to speak, which would be according to local custom here. no one has seen his parents. we're not sure where they may

with him on this trip was a man named mohammed rehad. that group is believed to have links with the pakistan taliban. rehan has been taken into custody. despite all this, at this point in time, they aren't ready to draw a link between shahzad and any other group. >> another question is how did he get on this plane? you have new information about the time line of the watch list? >> this from an administration official. apparently at 12:30, he was added to the no fly list and a lookout was posted to customs and border protection. at 12:39 a message was sent out to be on the lookout. there's a special addition to this list. at 6:30, he made a flight reservation, and at 7:35, he arrived at the counter at the emirates airline. he got on the plane. at 10:40, the national targeting center got a hit because of the cdb lookout, and they pulled him off the plane. if they sent out a lookout at 12:39, why didn't the airline pick him up? the reason was that emirates had not updated its no fly list. today that changed. the tsa is saying if you get a n

mohammed ajmal kasab was the lone survivor among the attackers. he was photographed walking through mumbai's main train station carrying an ak-47 rifle. the three-day attack left 166 dead and severely damaged two hotels, the train station, and a jewish center. north korea's reclusive leader kim jong-il may be on his first trip abroad since an apparent stroke two years ago. news crews in china today filmed a man in sunglasses who appeared to be kim as he arrived on a special armored train. later, a convoy of limousines took him to a five-star hotel. china invited kim to visit, as it tries to get north korea to resume talks on ending its nuclear program. the talks have been stalled for a year. greece got a boost today in its battle to stay out of bankruptcy. germany agreed to supply nearly $30 billion over three years, part of a larger, international bailout totaling $145 billion. the germans had held back on helping greece, but chancellor angela merkel said it is time for action. >> this reaction with a law does not only mean that we assist greece,

the amadi the target because of their blaef that there were other prophet its after mo mam-- mohammed. >> sreenivasan: across the border, the number of americans killed in afghanistan reached 1,000 when a soldier was killed in a roadside bombing. and afghan government forces battled militants again in eastern afghanistan. the fighting began last weekend when taliban forces tried to seize a key border district. in eastern india, a train wreck killed at least 71 people and injured hundreds more. the government claimed it was sabotage by maoist rebels. crews struggled to free people from the wreckage after a passenger train derailed and collided with an oncoming cargo train. it happened about 90 miles west of calcutta. some investigators said dynamite was involved. >> the driver said as the train was passing by post 11 and 13 he heard the sound of an explosion and there was a vibration. after that all the coaches were derailed. immediate leigh after that, a passenger train was coming from another side that also felt its impact. >> sreenivasan: the area where the wreck happened is a known

mohammed ajmal kasab is the pakistani man caught on camera storming a train station during the mumbai assault. 166 people died in the three-day siege. luxury hotels, a train station, and a jewish center were the targets. kasab can still appeal his sentence and apply for clemency. those are some of the day's main stories. i'll be back at the end of the program with a preview of what you'll find tonight on the newshour's web site. but for now, back to judy. >> woodruff: new details emerged today about events leading up to the attempted attack in times square last saturday. investigators also stepped up efforts to run down any connections to militants in pakistan. newshour correspondent kwame holman has our report. >> holman: federal officials reported today they're still getting information from faisal shahzad, the prime suspect in the bombing probe. attorney general eric holder discussed the interrogation at a senate hearing this morning in washington. >> during ongoing questioning by federal agents, shahzad provided useful information, and we will continue to pursue a number of leads

in an interview with in this scene news -- nbc news, obama declared that mohammed will be convicted and executed. then bore the senate, and you stated "failure is not an option." i do not know how that undermined our system if we hope that. you and mr. obama must know that he and his co-conspirators are awarded the presumption of innocence and our courts . does the department believe they can defend assertions that the statement have painted a civilian jury or commission to such a degree as to deny them the presumption of innocence? >> maybe i can clear this up when i said the year is not an option, that is not a predicon. [unintelligible] it is a way in which a coach talks to the players about winning the game. that is what i was saying. >> i will give you that. the notion that obama said that he will be convicted and executed. that is a notio they have said many times. does that undermine our system and afford attorneys the oppounity to say the you tainted the jury pool and we are not afforded the presumption of innocence? >> we uld have an extensive law they would have to go through.

that turned up not to be true because we didn't realize khalid sheikh mohammed was an al qaeda or pledged osama bin laden so abu zubaydah was probably lower ranking but still within the leadership. we knew that he was the commander of the larger of al qaeda's training camps in afghanistan and that he was a logistics with is and by that i mean the other al qaeda fighters described him as the hub of the wheel from which all of the folks go out. he knew everything. he knew was the middleman and he knew bin laden. we suspect that the time he may have had something to do with the september 11th attacks. in the end he wasn't directly involved but he was aware of al qaeda's operations and knew that the attacks were coming so we started looking for him. finally we heard he was either there or in a major pakistani city. chris portales will you describe for us a lot it wasn't new york. >> guest: it was one of the most horrible places i've been in my life and i've been in terrible places are one of the world. i never felt so far from home in my life as i did in fisa log. is the city of 7 million peo

remnick is the author of "king of the world," about mohamed ali and linens tim, the last days of the soviet empire. for more information, visit new yorker.com. >> from the 2010 los angeles times festival of books, author and talk show host tammy bruce discusses her books books and takes the tv viewer phonecalls. the program is in our. >> joining us here on our steps from outside of haines hall on the campus of ucla is radio talk show host author, tammy bruce. tammy bruce have you ever been invited to do the "l.a. times" festival of books? >> interestingly no. i am a local. might books have done well and i've never been invited to be on a panel or. >> why do you think that is? >> it is par for course. with the president of los angeles through the '90s for the most part and i think that when there is a transition like i have made in this city, which is very liberal, you tend to become like an apostate if you will, but it is important i think as an author of course that there are a lot of venues in which we can talk about her books, but i have been here anyway, courtesy of c-span, also

that turned out to topics ackle teacher because of the time we didn't realize khalid sheikh mohammed was an al qaeda or pledged to osama bin laden abu zubaydah was probably a little bit lower ranking but still within the leadership. we knew that he was the commander of the larger of al qaeda's main trading camps in afghanistan. we knew he was a logistics whiz and by that i mean other al qaeda fighters described him as the hub of the wheel from which all of the spokes go out. he knew everybody. he was the middleman and he knew bin laden. we suspect at that time he may have had something to do with satori 11 attacks. i think in the end she was not directly involved but certainly was aware of al qaeda's operations and he knew the attacks were coming. so we started looking for them. finally, we heard that he was either in faisalabad or in nearby major pakistani city. host katella so you describe faisalabad. it wasn't new york. >> guest: know it was one of the worst places i've ever been in my life and i have been in terrible places around the world. i never felt so far away from home in

take this full circle to what is happening with mohamed elbaradei, he said, i was really impressed.he young man is 29 or 30 -- a generation which has grown up under hosni mubarak. i was seriously considering following him because he has created this national coalition for change. his facebook group has to wonder thousand people in egypt. i kept -- has 200,000 people in egypt. he is running himself by faces that do not deserve attention right now. whee he comes back to egypt, i'm going to tell them this. if he does not get rid of these old faces, i'm just not going to support him anymore. some people say, this is a 29- year-old egyptian who is saying, this nobel peace prize laureate, but we hope is our new hope in egypt, he does not cut it with me, because he is doing politics as usual. this is what facebook and twitter are doing for young people in countries around the world, where we do not have the kind of arguments you have on tv. in this country, people from the mainstream media it -- and i consider myself one of them -- always look back on the good old days when we were in cont