. >> guest: i read the biography of malcolm x as a teenager and i was a fan of mohammed alvey. so in my mind, islam and muslims were people who would fight for justice. i didn't know anything about it. when i got on campus, i was one day studying with a friend of mine. he just sort of ended our study session and said i've got to go. where you going? this is muslim prayer. i'm like okay. he invited me to go. so i went. so i saw everybody sitting on the floor. i also noticed that you had folks there who will buy it, who are black, who are asian, who are area up, even latino. so i liked that. then the preacher tim is talking about, how we are all from one seed of adam and even how humanity starts from a single-payer and we are all united that way. and i got intrigued and i went back and i went back. you know, i up converting to islam. >> host: so after you finish college, you leave detroit. in the book you said you felt as though minnesota was a place you could make a difference, but she couldn't do that in detroit. >> guest: i'm talking about perceptions of a 21-year-old. i'm not