. >> stephen: why not throw in the towel, you're the last of the mohicans. why dow keep going?t matters. >> stephen: why does it matter. does it make money. does it mick money? >> it-- . >> stephen: does make money. >> it doesn't make money. >> stephen: the market has spoken. the market has spoken. you're the last dodo. >> well, yeah, but i think we need to be in business. i think we need to be in the business in this complicated world and i think we do it because we can take the time to do it. we can do it in some complexity. we can do it in a way that news and journalism doesn't do it any more. the networks have given up on this kind of journalism. >> stephen: the mere fact that you take a long time to do it shows that you are not doing it well. >> the market for good journalism has taken a very complicated subject and being able to boil it down into a single gesture and one shouted phrase. >> 15 seconds i believe. >> stephen: well if you let your guests talk for more than 7 seconds at a time you've lost control of your show. a great man once said that, you know who said that

military assaults paid for by the united states with arms from the united states carried out by the mohican government which has also been a brutal against the residents of fallujah i don't think so crucial question thank you thank you no doubt there is an urgent need to drive these militants out after all how can you allow extremists to run talents again territory expand but then you also have to ask if you see bombing as a viable option in order to drive extremists out of residential areas how different is it from what bashar assad is doing in washington i'm going to check on. the conflict in neighboring syria has helped found the sectarian tensions in iraq some observers blame washington for paving the way to the strife that's engulfed the country. it's clearly the result of the u.s. war in iraq that has given way to the the kind of sectarian fighting we're seeing in iraq you know the existence of these sectarian based political parties these the shia led leadership in iraq led by prime minister nouri al maliki was put in power and remain these kept in power by the united states who prov

military assaults paid for by the united states with arms from the united states carried out by the mohican government which is also been brutal against the residents of fallujah i don't think so crucial question thank you thank you no doubt there is an urgent need to drive these militants out after all how can you allow extremists to run talent's again territory expand but then you also have to ask if you see bombing as a viable option in order to drive extremists out of residential areas how different is it from what bashar assad is doing in washington i'm going to check on. my colleague kevin owen spoke with antiwar activist phyllis bennis about the ramifications of america's drive to arm the mideast. we risk the possibility of the extension of this militarization that we're seeing in iraq right now we're seeing it already in syria where a civil war has expanded to a regional war and it's now spilling over into iraq the increasing militarization by the united states to the iraqi government is only going to make that worse not better and of course the irony is on the one hand you've got t