mohly, are there too many laws on the books? >> congress things so. yesterday a sentencing reform bill was passed, including a crime count, that the department of justice and federal agencies compile all the crimes on the books and regulations and put them in one place, publicly available on the website >> they are not in one place. >> no, they are spread through the multivolume federal criminal code. if you go to where you think the crimes are, you'll find some of them, but not all of them. you need to go to many places to find everything that is a crime. >> if these things exist independently does that many there's overlap. >> sure. people see a problem and think the solution is to make it a crime, slap on a punishment and the problem is solved. we may have multiple people doing that. >> is there a problem having too many laws on the books. >> the problem is there's too many laws on the book, it's hard to keep up with, 45 or 4600 laws, something no one could track. what you try to do is get someone withexpertise and get used to the laws that you wan