. >> before we went to break, mojgan was talking, esther, about the ways the holocaust is segwayed into other elements of history and unfortunately human genocide. i wonder on a more personal level of generation to generation you also faced these issues of what it means to make application to the experience, move the experience to the next generation. what is that all about? >> the second generation, the reason that we even created this organization was because we are trying to come to terms with how the hollow holocaust impacted us. we were raised by these people who had this experience and there was a common phenomena that we discovered when we got together that was part of the experience of growing up of a child of a holocaust survive vor and interestingly enough, there are an in nord nance amount of survivors' children that are psycho analysts. >> is that an idcation of the power, the experience has had on developing a self reflective capacity and empathy and wanting to on a simple, but not simple minded human scale to make the world better? >> yes. wanting to heal, wanting to heal