and also from our inside story studio mokhtar awad. with international policy team at the center for american policy. president obama in the last few days knocked people who were trying to have it both ways. those who accumulate wealth through the global economy and then siphon funds to those who teach their children to tear it down. can they continue to have it both ways? >> i hope not. however, we see what's going on in turkey, where the pressure is increasing there isn't enough evidence to suggest that, for instance, smuggling operations are continuing between the turkish border and isis-controlled areas stopping any time soon. movement from the turkish officials to seal their borders are something that you raised, and said, well, it's impossible. unfortunately, what we are hearing is that it benefits some of the turkish elite who are believing to some extent they're helping their fellow muslims in syria. and so even in a country like turkey, a nato country, we're not able to lay down the law in a way on something that is up front .