moldova, it in won't stay in moldova. moldova, they found a ring of -- they claimed to have nine milligrams. they don't know if they are bluffing about it. host: our topic is the money segment. back to your phone calls. texas.rom good morning. from aprilerved 1974-may 1975 on a weapon storage site in northern italy. our security was a combination of high tech and arms and each one had a power locking system. had low-tech security. is, who in for you the world is taking care of this stuff now when i can read about people on the icbm site who is on drugs and have drinking problems and gambling problems -- who takes care of these people? states hasunited secure systems in place for the nuclear weapons and for the plutonium and enrich uranium. caller raises annexed on point. there was a recent story about the lsd ring at an air force -- nuclearase flown to louisiana and they didn't know that they had live nuclear weapons on board the plane and the plane sat on the tarmac for 24 hours before they realized the error. this cause

they did it to france, they did it to moldova, they are doing it in the baltics. they are trying to undermine and delegitimize a marker see itself. let us be really clear about that -- but delegitimize democracy itself. we have passed sanctions on accountable.d them more importantly, what we intend to do is make sure they do not get away with it again, and also, to help our allies, to help those democracies, new and older democracies who will be facing this kind of russia aggression again. we need to make sure we can quit them with the tools they need to make sure it doesn't happen again. >> speaker ryan, some of your colleagues have called the summit yesterday embarrassing, damaging to the united states' relationship with its allies. have you talked to the president? do you think he needs to come out, verify, retract, a exactly what he tried to accomplish yesterday? .> i have not spoken to him i put out a statement yesterday within minutes after the conference and i think the statement speaks for itself. >> in light of the new indictments of. > on friday and the

past it threatens to do so again they're doing it around the world they did it to france they did to moldova they're doing it to the baltics russia is trying to undermine democracy itself democrats are pressuring republicans to reinforce those words with action if donald trump was such an easy mark in helsinki. president putin will realize he's an easy mark elsewhere that's why lawmakers are pushing for further sanctions against russia many are also demanding trump requests the extradition of twelve russians indicted last week or charges of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. vote but like previous administrations my administration has and will continue to move aggressively to repeal and they have friends and we will we will stop it we were telling. any efforts to get if you are like some democrats are calling for legislation to prevent the president from criticizing the f.b.i. and the department of justice as the president has done in the past so that the special counsel robert muller can continue his investigation into russian interference in the u.s. presidential election can really he

they did it to france, they did it to moldova, they're doing it to the baltics.ussia is trying to undermine democracy itself to delegitimise democracy. the first hosepipe ban of the summer could see seven million people in the north—west rationing water, as the dry spell continues. screams and 23 people are injured as flying lava from a volcano hits a tour boat, in hawaii. it's 5 o'clock. good afternoon. our top story is that the government faces another crunch vote in the commons over its brexit plans. this time the trade bill is being debated, with a number of conservatives who voted remain in the eu referendum threatening to vote against the government. they're arguing that if there's no free trade agreement reached with brussels by mid—january next year, then the uk should join a customs union to maintain frictionless trade with the eu. the problem is theresa may has doggedly opposed membership of any customs union, and the idea isn't part of the brexit agreement she hammered out at chequers. this is the scene live where they have been debating a number of am

moldova. georgia, it is very, ifry strong. bue is listening to president trump at the breakfast this morning attacking angela merkel, attacking nato members, ng is sitting back with his feet on his desk and samy work here is done."at jane: essage should mr. trump give him when they meet at the summit? heather: i would like president trnp to read that paragraph the nato decoration on russia where they say that russia is violating treaties and nations' territorial integrity, anit will not stand. what i fr is president trump will not use those words and he will have a different perspective when he meets president putin in helsinki. jane: thank u very much for joining me. the world cup final on sunday is set. croatia will be joining france on the pitch after defeating sengland byre of 2-1. it was a nailbiter which went into extra time. now croatia advances to the finals for the first time. olly foster watched it all unfold in moscow and joined us are short time ago. i asked about the highlights. olly: the world cup semifinal going

past it threatens to do so again they're doing it around the world they did it to france they did to moldova they're doing it to the baltics russia is trying to undermine democracy itself democrats are pressuring republicans to reinforce those words with action if donald trump was such an easy mark in helsinki. president putin will realize he's an easy mark elsewhere that's why lawmakers are pushing for further sanctions against russia many are also demanding trump requests the extradition of twelve russians indicted last week or charges of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. vote but like previous administrations my administration has and will continue to move aggressively to repeal and they have friends and we will we will stop it we were telling. any efforts to get if you are in our elections some democrats are calling for legislation to prevent the president from criticizing the f.b.i. and the department of justice as the president has done in the past so that the special counsel robert muller can continue his investigation into russian interference in the u.s. presidential election c

past it threatens to do so again they're doing it around the world they did it to france they did to moldova they're doing it to the baltics russia is trying to undermine democracy itself democrats are pressuring republicans to reinforce those words with action if donald trump was such an easy mark in helsinki president putin will realize he's an easy mark elsewhere. that's why lawmakers are pushing for further sanctions against russia many are also demanding trump requests the extradition of twelve russians indicted last week on charges of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. vote but like previous administrations my administration has and will continue to move aggressively to repeal and they have friends and we will we will stop if we were. any efforts to get if you're a hero like some democrats are calling for legislation to prevent the president from criticizing the f.b.i. and the department of justice as the president has done in the past so that the special counsel robert muller can continue his investigation into russian interference in the u.s. presidential election kimberly help a

they have violated the sovereignty of states -- the ukraine recently, but going back to georgia, moldova. they have attacked free election edstems not just in the un states but also in europe. we have got to be clear that what mr. putin is doing in russia security interests.nal they are an adversary. we want a relationship. we want that relationship based on honesty and trust, not mr. putin's terms. katty: you are clearly not happy with the way mr. trump is handling this, but what can democrats do about it? you are pretty powerless to change the actions of the president and the words of the esesident. sen. cardin: conis an independent branch of government and i expect my colleagues to ouspeaand take action to -- katty: but senator, it does not look like republicans are prepared tdo that. sen. cardin: i must tell you that i've talked to a lot ofpu icans and they will be challenged to stay silent. america demands action. the global community expects tht u.s. to le free world. what happened this week with mr. putin and mr. trump needs to be repudiated. katty: you say americans demand action

past it threatens to do so again they're doing it around the world they did it to france they did to moldova they're doing it to the baltics russia is trying to undermine democracy itself democrats are pressuring republicans to reinforce those words with action if donald trump was such an easy mark in helsinki. president putin will realize he's an easy mark elsewhere that's why lawmakers are pushing for further sanctions against russia many are also demanding trump requests the extradition of twelve russians indicted last week on charges of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. vote but like previous administrations my administration has and will continue to move aggressively to repeal and they have friends and we will we will stop it we were telling. any efforts to get if you are in our elections some democrats are calling for legislation to prevent the president from criticizing the f.b.i. and the department of justice as the president has done in the past so that the special counsel robert muller can continue his investigation into russian interference in the u.s. presidential election c

past it threatens to do so again they're doing it around the world they did it to france they did to moldova they're doing it to the baltics russia is trying to undermine democracy itself democrats are pressuring republicans to reinforce those words with action if donald trump was such an easy mark in helsinki. president putin will realize he's an easy mark elsewhere. that's why lawmakers are pushing for further sanctions against russia many are also demanding trump requests the extradition of twelve russians indicted last week or charges of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. vote but like previous administrations my administration has and will continue to move aggressively to repeal and they have friends and we will we will stop if we were. any efforts to get if you're a hero like some democrats are calling for legislation to prevent the president from criticizing the f.b.i. and the department of justice as the president has done in the past so that the special counsel robert muller can continue his investigation into russian interference in the u.s. presidential election kimberly help

past it threatens to do so again they're doing it around the world they did it to france they did to moldova they're doing it to the baltics russia is trying to undermine democracy itself democrats are pressuring republicans to reinforce those words with action if donald trump was such an easy mark in helsinki. president putin will realize he's an easy mark elsewhere that's why lawmakers are pushing for further sanctions against russia many are also demanding trump requests the extradition of twelve russians indicted last week or charges of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. vote but like previous administrations my administration has and will continue to move aggressively to repeal and they have friends and we will we will stop it we were. any efforts to get if you are in our elections some democrats are calling for legislation to prevent the president from criticizing the f.b.i. and the department of justice as the president has done in the past so that the special counsel robert muller can continue his investigation into russian interference in the u.s. presidential election can reall

past it threatens to do so again they're doing it around the world they did it to france they did to moldova they're doing it to the baltics russia is trying to undermine democracy itself democrats are pressuring republicans to reinforce those words with action if donald trump was such an easy mark in helsinki. president putin will realize he's an easy mark elsewhere. that's why lawmakers are pushing for further sanctions against russia many are also demanding trump requests the extradition of twelve russians indicted last week or charges of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. vote but like previous administrations my administration has and will continue to move aggressively to repeal and they have friends and we will we will stop it we will repel. any efforts to get her like some democrats are calling for legislation to prevent the president from criticizing the f.b.i. and the department of justice as the president has done in the past so that the special counsel robert muller can continue his investigation into russian interference in the u.s. presidential election can really help that

now there's been no letup in the protests in the capital of moldova that's a week after a court there ruled out the window of a pro western candidate in a male race thousands have been demonstrating daily and she's now the court cited unspecified violations in deciding on dre and the stars easily defeat of the pro russian candid it was not legitimate as going to vision in the former soviet country pro western political factions and those who favor closer ties with moscow . i want to france's most notorious criminals is on the run again after armed men landed a helicopter in a paris prison courtyard and carried him away read one fade was serving a twenty five year sentence for armed robbery and the murder of a policewoman in two thousand and ten the helicopter pilot was taken hostage at gunpoint but later freed without being heard it's not the first time fayed has escaped from prison in two thousand and thirteen four guards were taken hostage before he used dynamite to blow his way out of ten soldiers have been killed and four are missing after an attack by boko haram in egypt it happe

moldova, it in won't stay in moldova.va, they found a ring of -- they claimed to have nine milligrams. they don't know if they are bluffing about it. host: our topic is the money segment. back to your phone calls. texas.rom good morning. from aprilerved 1974-may 1975 on a weapon storage site in northern italy. our security was a combination of high tech and arms and each one had a power locking system. had low-tech security. is, who in for you the world is taking care of this stuff now when i can read about people on the icbm site who is on drugs and have drinking problems and gambling problems -- who takes care of these people? states hasunited secure systems in place for the nuclear weapons and for the plutonium and enrich uranium. caller raises annexed on point. there was a recent story about the lsd ring at an air force -- nuclearase flown to louisiana and they didn't know that they had live nuclear weapons on board the plane and the plane sat on the tarmac for 24 hours before they realized the error. this caused a hu

assistant secretary of state for russia, ukraine, belarus, moldova and a senior fellow for diplomacya international university and author of the book "back to containment" dealing with putin's regime. thank you for being here. back to the timing issue. i find it so curious this came the friday before the monday summit. >> well, it certainly is a coincidence at least. i know in your opening you were sucking more than that. it will make the situation for president trump a little more difficult by forcing him to raise this, i hope, although, president trump as you indicated knew about this deputy attorney general indicated he briefed the president on this before he left for his trip. yet the president was rather dismissive yesterday of the whole investigation. he said he'll ask putin about it and will get an answer. i hope the president is much more forceful for that. this should be viewed as an attack for russian officials by the kremlin and its democracy. it shouldn't be viewed in partisan terms. the president should be pushing back on it and make clear the united states is going to d

that's highly relevant since in this year alone elections will occur in georgia, latvia, sweden, moldova, brazil, among several others, not to mention our own midterm elections in november, u.s. midterm elections. so, we've convened a distinguished group of leaders to discuss long-term strategies and tools that we together must use to begin to implement resilience of democratic nations to future such actions. very briefly, let me tell you what the atlantic council has done to track and expose the kremlin's networks of influence since 2014. we've done reports like hiding in plain sight which used open source information to expose russian soldiers in ukraine's east and democratic defense against disinformation which laid out recommendations for governments, platforms and civil society to fight back. the kremlin's trojan horse series exposed networks in france, germany, greece, spain, italy and uk. and we've done transatlantic convening, including last week's forum which we'll host again in october this year and then we did a berlin 360 open source summit where we brought together citizen a

. >> i was chief of station in moldova. much smaller. would often meet with russian officials.nell: dealt with russians and or soviets at the time. talk about today a little bit since the comments, the president presumably on air force one, on twitter, trying to clean things up. i have great confidence on intelligence people almost conceding he didn't handle well things today. >> i think that was some of the progress made in the talks because the goal of our first meeting is have a second meeting as we say in the cia. connell: which they say they will. >> has been somewhat overshadowed by maybe poorly-chosen words at time. connell: seemed to almost throw his own people under the bus to be fair, dan coats head of national intelligence. >> seemed to undercut him directly. we do need to understand this, unpresident trump our stance against russia in general on all fronts is considerably stronger than previous admin is. i would like to look at deeds. connell: actions speak louder than words argument, which i heard a lot of people. i would counter don't the words matter? if somebody

again they're doing it around the world they did it to france they did to moldova they're doing it to the baltics russia is trying to undermine democracy itself democrats are pressuring republicans to reinforce those words with action if donald trump is such an easy mark in helsinki president putin will realize he's an easy mark elsewhere that's why lawmakers are pushing for further sanctions against russia many are also demanding trump requests the extradition of twelve russians indicted last week on charges of interfering in the twenty sixteen u.s. vote but like the previous administrations my administration has and will continue to move aggressively to repeal and they have friends and we will we will stop if we were. any efforts to get if you are in our elections some democrats are calling for legislation to prevent the president from criticizing the f.b.i. and the department of justice as the president has done in the past so that the special counsel robert muller can continue his investigation into russian interference in the u.s. presidential election can really help that al jaz

they did to france, moldova, the baltics. trying to undermine democracy itself to delegitimise democracy is over some reason they can look good by comparison. let's just be really clear about that. it wasn't just politicians who were angry. here's how commentators on fox news reacted — normally a source of constant support for donald trump. that was quite something. almost surreal at points as the president was really litigating the election of 2016 and making the case again there was no collusion. it's a stunning and disappointing revelation here today. not a very brought forceful presentation from trump with putin behind him. he should have defended ours, his own defence community or just should have defended ours, his own defence community orjust don't take the meeting, don't get to helsinki if you can with the guy in the eye and tell him what is what. —— if you can with the guy in the eye. —— if you can't look the guy in the eye. the man that putin name—checked is bill browder. he is a former high—level investor in russia

they did it to france, they did it to moldova, they're doing it to the baltics.son. that's the really clear about that. the point we are making here is we know they interfere with our elections and we have passed sanctions on russia to hold them accountable. more importantly, what we intend to do is to make sure that they don't get away with it again. and also, to help our allies, to help those democracies, there is new and older democracies in the world who are going to be facing this kind of pressure again, this russian aggression again. we need to make sure we can equip them with the tools they need to stop this from happening in their democracies. joining me now from washington is republican commentator and former speechwriter for george w bush, anneke green. the retraction be enough to satisfy these critics? thanks coming on. what do you make of first what he said yesterday and what he is now saying? i think what he is saying today shows that it is a major concession for him. he is not meant to bea concession for him. he is not meant to be a leader who apolo

they did it to france, they did it to moldova, they're doing it to the baltics. trying to undermine democracy itself, to delegitimise democracy, so for some reason they can look good by comparison. let'sjust be really clear about that. paul ryan there, who is leaving office, feeling like he can speak more freely than other republicans. and joining us now is kurt volker, the executive director of the mccain institute who serves as the us special representative for ukraine negotiations. thank you for coming in to join us. you also serve as the united states‘s special representative to the ukraine and have invested interest with relations between russia and the united states. would you make of what donald trump said standing next to vladimir putin. you make of what donald trump said standing next to vladimir putinli understand the controversy going on here, and cannot walk away from not. when you look at the substance, i think what donald trump is trying to do is create an atmosphere with vladimir putin where they can work together and doing that without giving away

assassination to try to influence elections in montenegro, what they've done in ukraine, georgia, moldova. they are the bad guys and you've dedicated most of your life to working in counter intelligence and one of your biggest cases was heathfield and tracy anne foley, is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> how many russian folks did you expose and bring to justice? >> that was a long large investigation that tremendous number of the extraordinary people worked on there were ultimately i believe ten roughly russian illegals who were here but that i started out in the early days, was honored to start out and, again, that ran a decade. >> and how many russians were deported for that in. >> sir, if memory serves, 101 but i cannot -- 10 or 11. >> a pretty good case. >> yes. >> did you work at the fbi primarily in that period. >> at that period early on, yes. >> are there some things that you can tell about the russians that maybe we should know before the president meets with mr. putin, a very good friend and a man that he cannot say anything bad about? >> sir, i can speak to my experience as a nat

the baltic area and balkan countries also that have been threatened including montenegro, georgia, moldova and ewe cain. the resolution speaks of our support of the sanctions against russia and the sanctions shoult remain until crimea is returned to ukraine and the region no longer has war. and then we continue to support the baltic who was their air space invade by russian aggression. i'm pleased that speaker ryan allowed this resolution to come to the floor that was passed by a voice vote unanimous consent as the senate passed a similar resolution, 97-2. the house and the senate stand together in support of nato and our allies in eastern, central, and western europe. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute and revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> i rise today to remember someone who dedicated his life to public service in the first congressional district of

putin, based upon his experiences in georgia and also, by the way, based upon his experience in moldova, said we can do the same in ukraine, and they invaded ukraine. they took over crimea. they illegally annexed crimea, and guess what? ukraine today is nowhere closer to being a nato ally as a result of mr. putin's strategies. it worked for him. not for us. that's not in our national security interest. and the president gives him a pass. they tried it in montenegro. russia financed operations of a coup to try to prevent the parliamentary elections from having a government that would ratify the nato. the people in montenegro stood up and said no. they fought it and they won. and now montenegro is a nato ally. so we can -- can't give this space to mr. putin. mr. putin not just in the united states but in europe interfered in elections. but what happened in 2016 in america? madam president, this is a fact. this is not subject to debate. we know that russia directed by mr. putin interfered in our elections. that's been confirmed by our intelligence community. it's been confirmed by our own

i usually pause here and to anyone from moldova? good! i worry there will be someone here from there tonight given that we are at stanford. that came off wrong, i love mulled over. i went there with the vice president in 2011 and he spoke before 50,000 people. which is probably the largest audience he'd ever had because you know, you don't get that chance during the vice presidential, they loved him. don't get me wrong, i love mulled over, i urge you to go. but -- we not talking about mulled over today because mulled over does not have the power to threaten europe, to redraw borders. and you know, weak states sometimes create problems for the united states as we have learned tragically on september 11. but we are talking about russia tonight and i read about russia in the book because russia has power to do things in the world. to annexed territories, support people like assad and intervene in our elections. but, there are two but 's i want to focus on. i can think of great powers that rose up and did not annexed territory of their neighb

the istanbul accord where they promised to get their military forces out of moldova and georgia. the initiative signed by bush 41 with gorbachev and th. the chemical weapons convention and the inf treaty. you can't continue to do arms control negotiations with a country that continually violates its commitments. now, you know, were russia to somehow come back into compliance with its treaties and were we somehow able to get strict verification along the lines of the original start treaty or the inf treaty, arms control may be something we can talk about again. but right now to consider plunging head long into a new agreement given eight existing treaties being violated suggests that you don't care about the violations. that would be a huge mistake and exactly the wrong signal to send to vladimir putin. >> i think what frank said is very much the case that needs to be communicated and elevated more to the public and through the media, which is very difficult, because they don't want to carry this type of negative message. potentially a call for some senators in order to placate ot

illicit funds came from russia, moldova, and azerbaijan. in and cutent quarter prices to compete with rivals like tesco. a court is expected to rule on its $10 billion acquisition next year. francine: the ecb chief economist sees interest rates making a comeback as a policy .ool it comes 10 years after the central formic raise rates, then had to reverse course. nds yield on 30 year bod dropped to a low after speculation it will reinvest proceeds. joining us now is our guest. brian come when you look at what much isdoes next, how the ecb thinking we don't want that policy mistake where we hiked, then had to reverse course? >> they have been thinking about that a lot. it has been embarrassing. there are people who also feel interest rates oare the main tool. -- are the main tool. francine: what are they looking at when it comes to actual economy? >> the european economy seems to be in good shape. things seem to be more or less ok. what is swirling in the background is the noise of possible trade war, global slowdown, all the things that could

they did it to france, moldova, they are doing it to the baltics.emocracy itself.>> that condemnation of russia cams in response to what president trump said yesterday alongside the president of russia. in the helsinki summit, mister trump described the u.s. as federal investigation of russia as a witchhunt.>> the probe is a disaster for our country. it has had a negative impact upon the relationship of the two largest nuclear powers in the world. >> of the response to that characterization of the u.s. intelligence community and its work was sharp -- sharp and swift, john brennan said that the president's performance in helsinki rises to and exceeds the threshold of high crimes and misdemeanors calling it quote, nothing short of treasonous. >> paul ryan was asked specifically whether he thought the president actions were treasonous. >> he shook his head and seemed it was overdramatic. gingrich called on president trump to clarify his statements calling it quote the most serious mistake of his presidency that must be connect did -- corrected immediat

to try to influence the elections in montenegro, what they've done in ukraine and crimea, georgia, moldova, they are the bad guys. and you've dedicated most of your life of to working in counterintelligence. one of your big cases, i think, was donald heathfield and tracy ann foley, is that correct? >>>> yes, sir. >> howol many russian folks did you expose and brick to justice? >> that wass, a long, large investigation that a tremendous number of extraordinary people worked on. that -- there were ultimately, i believe ten roughly, russian illegals that were here, but i started out in the early days and was honored to start out and,an again, that ran a decade. >> and how many russians were deported for that? >> sir, if memory serves, 10 or 11, but i'm not certain on that number. >> pretty good case you worked on, a good job. did the you work on russia primarily when you were in the fbi? >> at that period early on, yes. >> are there some things you can tell us y about the russians tht maybe we should know before the president meets with mr. putin, his very good friend and the man he cannot sa

there's elections in latvia and moldova and sweden that are happening soon. what best practices are you seeing among our european allies? what tools do you think the state department can and should be using and how should we be doing as you put it, everything we can to push back on likely election interference by russia to our vital allies, as well as to our upcoming midterm elections? >> it's a good question. we, the united states government, my previous organization in the intelligence world did a great deal of work with our european partners with the german and french election to help identify threats and vectors, intelligence sharing, that's an underpinning so the governments can understand the threats, sometimes america is better positioned to see them and observe them than some of the other countries that are smaller with fewer resources and i think it's also important and we've begun to do this the countries share the actions, what actually took place to download so we can determine to push back. there's lots of variations on the theme, overt efforts,

they did it to france, they did it to moldova, they‘re doing it to the baltics.

now under the similar ukraine, georgia and moldova treaties, the ecj in practice decides, not the arbitratorsouse the other day, the repeal of the 1972 act with the continuing application of the functions of the european court of justice to the uk, when as you now only too well, section three of the european commissions act 1972 is the jurisdiction of the european court over the uk jurisdiction of the european court overthe uk in jurisdiction of the european court over the uk in domestic law, and under the repeal act that is actually going to be repealed on exit day? we acknowledge in the white paper the role that the european court of justice white paper the role that the european court ofjustice has in being the determinant of the interpretation of european union law. and that is acknowledged in the white paper. but we will not be under thejurisdiction white paper. but we will not be under the jurisdiction of the european court of justice. under the jurisdiction of the european court ofjustice. through the proposals that are in here, as we say, in those cases where there isa we say, in thos

he has occupied three different sovereign states, georgia, moldova, ukraine.tish soil, his regime, rather. he has downed a russian -- rather, a malaysian civilian airliner, killed almost 300 people in eastern ukraine. he is accelerating his development of strategic nuclear weapons, he has violated the ballistic missile treaty, the sixer nf treaty -- the inf treaty. so this is not someone who is walking into a meeting looking to do deals. he is an aggressor who is looking to take advantage of the united states, and trump, i think, by setting the table this way is saying, yeah, let's talk about all this aggression instead of coming to the table and saying, look, i have leverage over you and we will exert that leverage million you behave better. maria: i'm not sure what the thinking behind bringing up the world cup as a the first item on the agenda was there, dagenen. >> just to bring up the world cup. again, he used the word congratulate, remember -- maria: that's right. >> according to reports president trump was cautioned do not congratulate piewt preponderanc