commissioner moller caen: looking at slide 12, granted it is a small increase, but the total dollar amount is going to be shocking. how do you feel that we could negotiate that? he >> it is definitely more shocking at four pennies than two. that is why we wanted your thoughts on what the book and options would-be. -- on what the bookend options would be. we are a $6.5 billion entity. the entire general fund is $3.3 billion per year. if one penny is $4.5 million, not to say that it is not significant because every dollar is significant, but this would be a discussion with the mayor's office as well as the board of what the importance is of the hetch hetchy system. everybody understand that the costs we have now are incredibly low. there are the best bargain we have right now, especially compared to pg &e. policy makers understandably could not forever sustained rates below cost. it is a matter of how they can fit them into the budget. we are all hoping that an economic recovery helps the general fund growth over the next few years. that is yet to be seen. commissioner moller caen: -- presid

. -- commissioner moller caen. commissioner moller caen: perhaps we should continue this item and work on the mou. it does not use -- it does not seem to be in a completed state right now. perhaps that would be the best approach. >> i would concur. a couple of thoughts also. it did resonate with meet the reminder that lake merced is part of our water supply. and is a -- and is an emergency source of water in san francisco. that is significant. from my environmental lines of climate change, which we know is approaching, and the water issue that we know we will face state wide and locally, i think that is a significant issue to remind ourselves and place it squarely under our responsibility as a water supply system. there was another piece in the comments that i heard that resonated with me. i think that the mou does need a greater clarification on accountability and who is responsible for what. the harding golf course falls -- feels like a piece that falls under rec and park jurisdiction. beyond that, there could be

moller government. call it it's kind of a here for you for most go it would have a chip if i could president obama's though baking is paid for reelection other only really little tentative to him at the moment do you think. most certainly the most notable right now is republican ron paul who i mentioned is is a lifetime member of the libertarian party and running on a libertarian agenda he has proposed shrinking the federal budget by one trillion dollars by bringing our troops home by ending the federal reserve which controls our money in the united states there is most certainly an alternative to president obama. in that candidate and the libertarian party is expected to field candidates as well former governor gary johnson of the state of new mexico recently announced his bid for the libertarian nomination we had lee wright and a host of other candidates also vying for the nomination for the libertarian party will present a stark alternative to president obama's big government policy is. going to last

. >> if it would have taken and of a few more years would they do moller? >> i suspect the daily declared war on japan after japan surrendered but they were part of the allies certainly macarthur would have been in the command of them and would make sure of that with fdr and true man but i don't know. good question. >> go to the day of december december 7 i found interesting the bombing itself it is interesting to see hawaii at that time was on the half-hour different time frame so when the first current struck it was one of 5:00 p.m. the redskins playing the goals and people did not have cellphones and they would have press announcements and as you wrote as the rumor of war spread the seeds emptied one enterprising wife center has spent two was attending the game to get the dow at -- telegram top pros see 27 opposite the 25-yard line east side griffin stadium more in japan get too often is. the redskins ownership said using the piegza what was against the policy. >> county times had that occurred? [laughter] but then today would have been panic with this a