commissioner moran: commissioner torres: commissioner moller caen: commissioner moller caen: viet vietcommissioner vietor: commissioner courtney: ed harrington: donna hood: donna hood: (music still playing). sf government tv. san francisco television. meeting about to start good afternoon., commissioner vietor:.or dor here. commissioner courtney: here. >> commission caen is expected to the shortly. >> minutes of the august 28 meeting. motions? iy seconded. all in favor all in favor, eye. this is the time for public comment es. do we have public comments? yes, sir, >> my name is ryan thomas i work with the sf puc [?]. >> are ehere for ed's item, that's on the agenda, so, please hold off until then. any other public comments not on the agenda today? okay, thank you. communications? we have several vip reports before us. i think, any questions or comments from the dmition? okay, any public comment on the communications? okay, thank you. other commission business? >> i did want to inquire about the joint pc environment commission meeting and if we're moving forward with that. i have another inquiry ab

i appreciate commissioner moller caen's concerns about cost and speeding things up. at the same time, there are enormous real-estate challenges to deal with central shocks and to move things around it in the southeast in particular. we cannot do too many things at once and keep the system running. i think staff is challenged in trying to figure that out. there are some very real issues with how to phase it. very briefly, on the green infrastructure, i think that will have impact on water conservation. as there is more water infiltration, that will have portable and non portable offsets. we should look at water conservation and green in separate boxes but also in the crossover impact's going forward. in addition to these projects, if $7 billion is not enough, there will be more in the future. possible nutrient removal, all of the future regulatory drivers. this is all the stuff we need to be doing now. we need to continue to invest in the system. it is not a system that invests in itself. we need to continue to follow that. just to end, although the costs are signific

commissioner moller caen: i do not know how to approach this exactly. this is my third go around with waste water. the last was in 2002. that is 10 years ago. i am thinking about the folks in southeast. they have waited all this time. i am looking at this time line. those digesters are about 10 years out. i do not think it is right. i think we have to revisit this and see how we can speed up everything. it just is not right. >> i think you are right. certainly, if we can use alternative delivery mechanisms , the ceqa process is three years. a lot gets nested. you have to have a certain amount of planning to get into ceqa. then there will be a little bit of sign work afterwards. that is an up-front issue we will have to deal with. we agree and we want to see it happen sooner. it is such an important part of phase one. it is important that the funding be included as phase one so we have an opportunity to throw everything at it to get this to happen as quickly as possible. dan, i am not sure that he mentioned, we will be improving the existing digesters so

commissioner moller caen is going to be important because for her entire tenure she has had a laser focus on finances and getting them right and also on common sense. i talked to her on tuesday after the vote, and we agreed that we need to roll this program out in a sensible way and an economically sensible way so that it gets done right. and when it comes to the build-out francesca vietor was crucial to making sure that that was in the program. for many years, it was sort of an after thought and we had to fight and fight to get it in. and francesca tipped it over the top and made sure that it happened. and for a lot of other -- you know, it's absolutely vital to retain a solid environmental seat on the sf puc and she is clearly it. and then vince courtney, because of his deep experience with labor, and especially laborers that have worked on renewable energy jobs, he will get in his bones the importance of getting clean power sf to the blocks correctly, and making sure that we get that build-out to actually happen. tuesday, show us the money on this local installation and local jobs. and