howie: we are back with mollie hemingway. is it fair tore journalists to raise questions about a christian school who won't high non-christian teachers and people who don't believe homosexuality is a sin. mollie: they don't believe you should have any sex out of marriage. it's not that unique for christian schools. we push back on the rhetoric that the press are the enemy of the american people. it's important the press not talk that way and frame christian teaching that is 2,000 years old. but to frame it that you are doing something bad and it's bad because she'd holds the teachings that christians hold to. howie: she previously taught at this school for 12 years but mike pence was a congressman and nobody cared. he's concerned about what he sees as an attack on christian education. do you think many mainstream journalists believe these views -- if it were a public school it would be against the law. but do you believe these schools are mainstream christianity. mollie: everybody has their views on sex. and they should be und

mollie hemingway is a senior editor at "the federalist" and joins us tonight. ctional city, functional capital city, the debate would not be about whether or not there was a problem or whether or not borders were appropriate.bl it would be about the details how to fix what is manifestly and obviously a problem. is it your conclusion that, like, at least half the city doesn't believe there is a problem? >> it isus very bizarre to watch people talk about this. i mean, obviously, we have hit a government shutdown. we have had story after story of problems at our southern border and we do have other border problems. we have other issues that are in play. the leaders here should be sitting down and working out a solution. and they are not taking it heseriously. also the media don't seem to be taking it very seriously. they hit this issue about an inch deep. i think the average american might have a better understanding of thehe complexity of the situation than the average reporter at times. >> tucker: if you are a republican senator and your solution -- and i think t

beverly hallberg, mollie hemingway, and jessica tarlov, a fox news contributor. llie,ing a stinging defeat for trump. the "daily caller," trump caves. poll require objectively was a defeat. mollie: it objectively was a defeat. the president tried to get more personnel, technology to -- to interdict drugs. you have dozens much democrats saying they want to vote on this now that the government is open. we'll have to wait and see how serious people were about wanting border security. there was a failure at this point. but the larger issues, the responsibility can't just lie on the president. other people have to get involved. howie: there was an increasingly intense focus on the hardships' on the federal employees and families. beverly: it's a battle of two narratives and the people being hurt. but long term, most of americans do want to type of border security. while this looks like a defeat for the president in the short term, long term there is more to come. i don't think they were focusing on the fact the president may get a little bit more of what he wants. howi

senior editor at "the federalist" and fox news contributor mollie hemingway.great to have you. i literally don't know where to start. so much to cover here. whether you have folks like dan rather yesterday supposed to be one of the great anchors in american history trying to sort out the great mysteries of the day saying the walls are closing in on donald trump. how do you react to that? >> i mean, this is just the latest in a long line of stories where we have had exact same thing happen. explosive claims that if true would bring down the presidency and then they all sort of end up being a dud. the promised evidence never arises. there are two problems with this. one is the buzzfeed story itself. it has big claims that were not backed up by any evidence in the story. there was a secondary problem of so many journalists at every single media outlet taking the claim seriously even though nobody had bothered to provide any evidence supporting them. it's a -- not just buzzfeed's problem. it's actually a lot of other people's problem, too. for being so gullible. p

as the people of venezuela prepared to welcome new leadership, molly hemingway says the united statesould proceed cautiously. >> when making a decision whether to be involved in someone else's civil conflict, you only get involved it affects your national interest, no question this maduro socialist government has destroyed the lives of his people. there is a humanitarian crisis, economic crisis, it is something that does affect us and could be the kind of thing that if we get involved militarily could affect us even more in the sense of there is already refugee crisis with venezuelans trying to flee. if we support a civil war of some kind it could make the refugee crisis even worse. we have to think prudently about how to involve ourselves. >> prudently and strategically. the trump administration has a history of holding nicholas maduro accountable most recently slapping his socialist regime with the new sanctions, you may remember that after his controversial reelection so we will continue to follow it. the second us service member killed in afghanistan this year just identified as a

a senior editor at national review, mollie hemingway, the senior editor at the federalist.w, they suggest that there is a compromise. we can get something on the table, yes, it is possible. he spent a lot of time talking about how walls don't work and talked himself in circles a bit. >> the democrats are loving this, this is pure energy for the base. by the way, all the energy in american politics is on the left. they are riding high after november. they feel they have trump on the run. this is a peer-based policing exercise. we post on to show is often the case, democrats seem to be paying no price for the broader public. frankly, i don't think there is a broader public anymore. we have a right and a liberal pace and they don't talk. i don't see the incentive that she has to compromise unless this thing goes so that both sides realize, okay we have to cut a deal. >> bret: what did you take away? >> i'm not sure if i agree with what he is saying here about how this is playing out. i don't think it is particularly good to take over the house of representatives and immediatel

the politics editor here at fox news, the correspondent of national radio, mollie hemingway, senior editorent will speak from the oval office. the first time you will speak from that venue. whether it is going to be a national emergency call, whether it would be another offer to democrats, we don't know. because this is the best venue the presidents have. take the measure of the man. the first time obama did in oval office address, he looked miniature behind the giant desk as he was talking about the oil pumping out into the gulf of mexico. we also think about moments like ronald reagan he used this for about 5 minutes. there were great. other presidents have done so. trump has an opportunity here to say what he really wants. he could tell the american people that he was in a bad position. he was fighting over $3 billion in the government was running a deficit. you can't do that. now he has increased the size of the field and he says it is for the whole thing, conference of immigration reform. he has one magic moment now we can lay out his case and let's see if anyone wants to talk about i

jonah goldberg at the national review, susan page, the bureau chief in mollie hemingway, the senior editora deal this was, this back and forth. there are a lot of things happening around the world, but it is pretty unique. >> is not a great spectacle. i think donald trump was right to call nancy pelosi's bluff. nancy pelosi doesn't want him there, she should stand up and say so. i have a hard time believing 110% of the american people say they are severely affected by the shutdown according to this poll that even a fraction of those people are really heartbroken that they may not see the state of the union address. this is something that washington cares about a great deal, it will substitute just fine if he gives it from somewhere else. i can't stand the state of union address, so i'm glad to see it taken down a peg. it is a sign of the partisan breakdown in washington. >> bret: you are a truth there, you want the whole thing -- >> i am. woodrow wilson is the worst president in american history, want to leave it there. >> bret: susan, beyond this back and forth, if they can get the addres

tom rogan, ottmar eliasson, and mollie hemingway. today and a big move toward a meeting with xi that could have a deal. >> it might be bushels but the point is there going to buy a lot of soybeans. there are two parts to this deal. china buys more of our stuff, the other part which is much harder is china changes its business model, stop stealing intellectual property forcing technology transfers and the question hanging over these talks, would donald trump settle for just reducing the trade deficit, just settle for them buying more stuff but not really push for structural changes. today he said several times he wanted everything resolved, he used to have an obsession with the trade deficit but over time he has come to understand why these structural issues are important. they are hard ones to resolve and verify. >> bret: there experts here in this town, who are skeptical about dealing with china on this level and that they could just pat his back and say here's something for now. continue their practices down the road. the president

let's bring in the panel, chief political correspondent and mollie hemingway, senior editor at "the federalists, there was a lot on election interference. chris wray saying not only did russia try in 2018, but they believe that russia and china are going to step it up in 2020. >> i think perhaps the scariest sentence in the whole report was the one that said china and russia are more aligned than at any point in the mid-1950s. that is not good at all. you are right about the election interference. on the other hand, i think we have been expecting this for at least for two years now. one of the things i thought was really striking about this report was that a lot of it just wasn't very surprising, given the news. when the report comes out and says that north korea wants to build nuclear weapons, and wants to build the missile delivery systems to attack the united states or somewhere else, the shocking thing would've been if they weren't. there is a lot of news in here that we really already knew. >> bret: to give it context, the trump administration may point back to north korea and say, listen

. >> martha: here now, mollie hemingway and former democratic senator from indiana and former governor of indiana. let me start with you, senator, first, if i may. what do you make of this sort of centrist movement that howard schultz was trying to put together? and how far to the left of out of the democratic symptom i candidates seem to be swaying. >> a couple things, martha, i do think it tends to be the middle where elections are won and lost and i think americans out there are now crying for practical problem-solving rather than ideology, left or right. if they want people who actually move the country forward in practical terms. but in the primaries, particularly presidential primaries a lot of the energy enthusiasm early on tends to be on the extremes of the two parties. so i'm a little worried about my own party going too far left. i just still don't think even with the changes in the country that if we are perceived as being sort of a socialist pacifist party that's the way to win a general election. so i'm hopeful that at the end of the day the democrats will come down to a c

mollie hemingway, senior editor at "the federalist. she joins us now.e is also could be said there is positive about it. the problem about the media coverage is almost unilaterally negative. american people, including millions of americans who voted for him, are happy with the policies he is pursuing and approach he is taking. you don't see that much in the media coverage. it is so reflexively hostile and hard to take it seriously. ainsley: with the partial shutdown with if you listen some of the political commentators, they use fear tactics to talk about the government shutdown. or are they being truthful and something to be fearful of? >> it is hard for media to gin up a lot of controversy about this shutdown in farther because 75% of the government is funded including the military. usually stories created in the shut downis manufactured. you shut done a very popular man you meant and send cameras to go look there. in this case most of the government is funded. people haven't missed a paycheck. that will start happening soon. i think a lot of people t