molly ball, "the atlantic." josh barrow, "business insider."ere are parallels that are good and parallels that are bad. in some ways their vote didn't have anything to do with us. how much reflection do you see in this domestic political environment? >> i think it's the same global currents powering both phenomena, rather than two situations that happen to be analogous. in both cases you seem to see this dichotomy between cosmopolitans and traditionalists. you seem to see an uprising, reactionary backlash of traditional societies and nationalism and nativism. and a sense of grievance against the sort of progressive, cosmopolitan ethos and the swiftness of demographic change. i think there are a lot of similar things happening in both these phenomena, and you know, the sort of idea of an out of touch cultural elite that did not anticipate the force and the passion of these populist currents. >> one of the things that a few people had noted about this, josh, in terms of predictive, a mismatch between the betting markets like, no way. the polls, i