one of the original pinkerton's, they take out the molly mcguire's that are supposedly an evil conspiracy in the coal miners of western pennsylvania and they hang 10 or 20 of them based on this one detective's infiltration. it's not clear if these were all criminals. they were irish. it's a popularly debated subject. in the west in wyoming what i found is that people really don't like going to court. they prefer settling themselves. how do you see your work studying this subject interpreting to the overall understanding of western history? particularly it sounds like wyoming has been an area of focus for you. mr. lillert: wyoming, montana, colorado. places like that. the first thing is that detectives were almost everywhere. you think about them now in the --ies but in these all these and all these little rural areas they were in the saloons. university of idaho in 1905 had cameson in the pinkerton's in and they started suspecting a runner on the tracking. there was a detective that ran on the tracking for a couple of months. -- track team for a couple of months. host: do you see that fit