cato institute, momore, my gosh, more liberal than me. [ laughter ] we want to talk a little bit about -- i said 10% respond wrong, 80% wait for help and 10% lead. i use analogy of 9/11. where are the stairs? where are the stairs? we think we're going in unchartered territory, but we're not. we did this in 1920. and it's being done all over the world. so let's look at those things. ben sherwood is here, author of "survivor's club," and chris edwards director of the tax policy studies at the cato institute. and author of "downsizing the federal government." and a great website, i didn't know was yours until earlier in week, downsizi downsizingthegovernment.org. a great websiwebsite. chris, first, start with you. show me the stairs. where are the exits? where are the things that people have already done to where we go oh, okay, we just do that? >> we got examples in our own country and many countries abroad of how the government cut and people have responded positively. look at welfare reform in 1996. before republicans and bill clinton put that into effect, democrats and liberals are sa