but you know that there are "environmental campaigners" out there, people like george monbiot who looktainability and responsibility, and they say you know what, james rebanks is actually a hypocrite. because the kind of sheep farming that and he and his family... nobody has said that! well, the kind of sheep farming that you and your family have practised for years isn't really about respecting nature. you've created a particular environment which is a deeply man—made environment and which to people like monbiot, isn't respecting what this place could and should be. well, i don't think it's as good as it could or should be. i think you have to ask why that happens. so, why does it happen? because some of the poorest people in the north of england learn how to live in a landscape from sheep and cattle and they are not particularly ecologically literate. initially, they do a limited amount of harm because they just don't have the means to change it and then later on we give them other tools, and they start to make it quite difficult for nature. the question is how practically you get ou

ok let's talk about this further now because we are joined by a medic monbiot is that a french publisher and journalist and thank you very much for your time this evening look another devastating day for france and other more brutal killings that we've seen we've also just heard president macron say that france is in danger i just want to know what you thought about that statement is it a worrying statement to make as the head of state or. understood the general logic which has tended to political islam is and. are most abide by french support for feudal regimes such as so do arabia and qatar of these countries financed solipsism where have bisan and the muslim brotherhood once you have created a climate you can have genuinely isolated and spent 10 years acts but this makes it's particularly dangerous and difficult to predict but if anything can be done it's by it's by removing the french alliance with the 2 countries i mentioned. with regard to what he said today and i understand your concern but i just wondered what the mood in the country is now after listening to your president. i th