slaoui, moncef slaoui, he was responsible for the vaccine program. he was highly criticized by elizabeth warren and other politicians who didn't seem to know exactly how extraordinary this process was because of his connections with pharmaceutical companies who they suggested were evildoers in our society. in fact wasn't that precisely what this project needed to succeed, was the input of the private sector? >> david, that is exactly right. one of the lessons learned from covid-19 we need to take forward beyond the pandemic and other issues you bring the ecosystem to bear, when you make things work with industry, government, academia, sign activities around the world, amazing things can happen. when you start to look for enemies which is what politicians like to do, good for headlines and personal polls, nothing happens. david: yeah. >> potential lie, we move forward. that is exactly what happened in the u.s. that is why we're succeeding with other countries not doing as well as we are. david: we should not only cheering what they did, but see this a