[laughter] first, there's the mondale thing. [laughter] yes, it's true, i was a speech writer for walter mondale, and people ask me, as you can imagine, how do you go from walter mondale to fox news. the answer's simple, i was young once. [laughter] and then there's the psychiatry part, got to explain that too. yes, it is true that i once was a psychiatrist. actually, technically speaking i still am. but in reality i'm a psychiatrist in remission doing very well, thank you. [laughter] haven't had a relapse in 25 years. [laughter] and, of course, i'm asked to compare what i do today as a political analyst in washington with what i used to do as a psychiatrist in boston, and i tell people it really isn't that different, in both lines of work i deal every day with people who suffer from paranoia and delusions of grandeur. [laughter] the only difference is that the paranoids in washington have access to nuclear weapon. [laughter] present company excluded. [laughter] which makes the stakes a little higher and the work a little her in

but he said he wanted reagan to beat his old boss, walter mondale. >> i liked him and had respected hima personal matter, as a matt yore of honor, i didn't want to vote against a man whom i respected. >> so you had a vote, reagan or mondale. >> that is the only presidential election where i left that line blank. >> left it blank? >> but if i were the swing vote, i would have voted for reagan. >> it was a turning point from the political left to the political right. >> and just a few months after the election i wrote something called the reagan doctrine. >> it was a time magazine column. and it was provocative. he had praised reagan and now he was crediting him with a break-through insight that changed the calculus of the cold war. >> i realized that what reagan had done without a grand master plan was to challenge what at the time was called the bresnif doctrine and that is whenever we take over a country, it is ours. and what reagan had done was to challenge that and say, no. you don't get to keep what you got. we are going to challenge your possessions. where ever they are. and i thou

. >> i tried to clarify his relationship with walter mondale because he used to work with mondale andvery upfront for mondale and i thought this was appropriate to bring it back up because let me say again, he had nothing to do with the '84 campaign, he didn't get involved in 1980, but before '88 got some strategy notes from someone named derrick hammer krauth. and 49 states later -- no, i'm just kidding. >> that was a hammer krauth? >> yes. >> i want to say hello to orlando for saving his owners life. the black labrador retriever jumped on a subway track and tried to pull his blind owner who lost consciousness and tumbled and survived. and i love black labs. and here is my black lab. supercute. we miss her every day. >>> and last night i asked for ideas for secret santa. the first was born, get yourself booze if you are going to sit next to beckel every day. and julie is member of the month. get bob a picture of jasper and get bob a copy of the atlas road and the constitution. and the last one -- >> thank you very much. >> some victoria secret gift certificates. i said my wife is in

[laughter] first, there's the mondale thing.[laughter] yes, it's true, i was a speech writer for walter mondale, and people ask me, as you can imagine, how do you go from walter mondale to fox news? the answer is simple: i was young once. [laughter] and then there's the psychiatry part, got to exlain that too. yes, it is true that i once was a psychiatrist. actually, technically speaking i still am. but in reality i'm a psychiatrist in remission. [laughter] doing very well, thank you. [laughter] haven't had a relapse if 25 years. [laughter] and, of course, i'm asked to compare what i do today as a political analyst in washington with what i used to do as a psychiatrist in boston, and i tell people it really isn't that different. in pote lines of work with i deal every day with people who suffer from paranoia and delusions of grandeur. [laughter] the only difference is that the paranoids in washington have access to nuclear weapons. [laughter] present company excluded. [laughter] can makes the stakes a little higher and the work

[laughter] first, there's a mondale thing. [laughter] yes it's true, and how do you go from walter to fox news. the answer's simple. i was young once. there's the psychiatrist part. i have to explain it. it is true i was a psychiatrist. actually, tech technically spea, i still am, but in reality, i'm a psychiatrist in remission doing very well, thank you. [laughter] i have not had a relapse in 25 years. [laughter] of course, i'm asked to compare what i do today as a political analyst in washington with what i used tuesday -- used to do as a psychiatrist in boston. it's not that different. i deal every day with people who suffer from pair know ya and delusions of grander. the only difference is the pair -- paranoids in washington have access to nuclear weapons, present company excluded. [laughter] making the stakes higher and the work a little more interesting. i'm really honored and delighted to be here at the bush library to have seen the bush's. happy to be among you, but truth be told, i'm happy to be anywhere where juan wi

walter mondale, henry jackson.ow could you be associated with such people given year conservative philosophy? >> i am glad u.s. people ask me how you go from walter mondale to fox news. the ansr -- the short answer is i was young once. a long answer is that it actually was not i did not have an epiphany and wake up one morning in the clouds parted. a shaft of light came in in the lord spake get them to m it was not quite down and worked out. quite simple. in my 20's i was democrat. this is a road that has been tried by many. what happened is simple. when i was in my thirties i began my writing career. the evidence, the war on povty , which i believe again in my 20's in my teens, the evidence on what it actual effects were began to come in, and i was a physician opened to impair the evidence. the evidence was absolutely unmistakable. not only was it money wasted, not helping the people and was meant to help, it actually was undermining the committee's in the people who've been to hell. and began to reexamine the pre

my vice president, walter mon mondale, called for one person, one vote in south africa. but that was kind of an anomaly in those days. after i left office, the united states administration went back to its previous time of being aligned with the apartheid government. >> but that doesn't make sense. it's not something americans today think that americans in the '80s would have been aligned with. why did americans think that it was okay to support the apartheid government? >> because the cold war was underway then. and we looked upon ourselves as competitive with the soviet union everywhere in the world. and the anti-apartheid movement was supported by the communist party. in fact, anc declared itself to be communist as you know. after i left office the reagan administration and others, not criticizing him, went back to a position that anybody who was a member of the african national congress was a communist and was later classified to be a terrorist pnl so i. so it was a time when everybody who was for communism was looked upon as eants american. my -- we did support the

letters of various democratic candidates started with adelaide stevenson and jfk and bill clinton and mondale they all turned to him as a liberal conscience to appeal to the liberal constituency. >> of hard headed a liberal is some -- liberalism but he did not make the transition to kennedy overnight. can you talk about that transition from libertyville to intelsat? >> to use the word hard-headed that is interesting. he adored stevenson did worked for him twice through two presidential elections as a speechwriter but at the same time he felt stevenson was passive on the issue of civil rights. as tom points out that he tried to urge stephen said to protect the black voting rights to the issue of desegregation with the supreme court decision although very much a liberal idealist could not take positions that would possibly upset his presidential ambitions. said the way he related to john kennedy he felt it incumbent on his role as political adviser. >> he called up to call kennedy. >> the other thing is very closely i think it is the first or reference to write about bobby after his death the e

walter mondale, henry jackson, w can you be associated with such people, given your coervative philosophy glad you asked. lou: and you never dreamed i would. and wasn't like the lord spake to me. it is quite simple. in my 20s, i was a democrat and then this is a road thathas been traveled by many. and what happenedwas i was in my 30s and began my writing career. and the evidence of what the great society of the war on poverty which i had believed in in my 20s and 19, the evidence of what the effects wre. and it wasn't money wasted, it was part of the communities and the people who were meant to help. lou: when it comes to your rationality, not always conservative thinkers and vocates come about how have you preserved that. >> i think that hen thing people do is credit thiss good or bad. in some ways to make your once a liberal, i understand the intent of liberalism. there are some who want to control the political class and the ones ho believe obamacare and i know it's not a good plan, but i know you like and that is a pt of it as well. and liberalsre stuck in a cycle as well, when they g

the mondale way, bush has done that. run against the person, you fade-out sometime during the primary with good cheer and they call you back for vp. >> you're not going to run hard against her. so you don't want to tick her off and then you're disqualified from that. it's good to run once of about you run twice, except i'm not sure about the four times. >> look at these quinnipiac polls. they're fascinating out of iowa right now. clinton 45. paul, 44. look at this one, clinton, 40, christie 45. look at this one. cruz 41, clinton, 48. and there's clinton, bush, 47 to 40 for bush. no surprise there. all within the 40s. >> and it all goes to, look, these polls are just measuring the sentiment. >> that tells you something. >> the bit of good news you can see is that her numbers are better than barack obama's in iowa right now. he's the last poll that i saw there, he's in the low 40s. >> who's that? >> the president. so if you're a democrat that's really what you're being pegged at. hillary clinton has a name, she has 47%. th

. >> one of mondale's great -- >> bob! coming up -- the golden globe nominations are in.has the list. one of the hottest shows got snubbed. we'll tell you which one when we come back. >>> welcome back everybody. we've got three hot topics for you. nine minutes of cool commentary. first up golden globe nominations out today. pick your movie, your actor, pick your tv series, don't pick your nose. i'll start with what didn't make it. best show on tv. "homeland." nothing, naught ta, zilch. surprising. >> i thought a big surprise was oprah winfrey "the butler" wasn't nominated. i thought it was a snub. it was a weird list of nomination. cate blanchett. i think she's one of the best actresses. she got a nomination, but netflix, more than abc, nbc and cbs, and ever since the non network shows that started with "the shield" and others, starting with those shows it moves oufd network tv. it's going to be hard with net work tv to keep up with what they want and a lot of dough. >> they sell those series for a lot of bucks. what about you? mr. beckel? >> what do we care a bunch of fo

look, it's -- >> what do you expect from a mondale speech writer?hat's exactly what i mean. [ laughter ] might have trouble getting back together with that. >> i just wanted to steal your line there. lightning, people, lightning, people. it's not directly attributed to a drop in labor force participation, but if you take the longer view and put it in context, over the past year, the entire shrinkage is due to the labor, the drop in the labor force participation rate, and if we had the same participation rate today that we had a year ago, we would be at 8%. so, this is good news only in the context of an obama economy that isn't doing well. >> the "boston globe" had a story about the president's uncle who faced a deportation hearing, 2011. the white house said that the president had never met him. yesterday, jay carney, white house press secretary, said this. >> back when this arose, folks looked at the record, including the president's book, and there was no evidence that they had met. and that was what was conveyed. nobody spoke to the president. w

. >> that is due to mondale. >> some of the things are so boring, why not. don't think everybody should get stoned, but they do. it doesn't bother me. >> how do you feel about that? >> they are going to do, it is a lifestyle choice, nobody is a baby sitter. >> i'm personally against it. >> why? >> buts that my -- but why? >> that is not for me. >> it is as rare a topic that we all agree on and i think we all agree, do what you want to do, hollywood. >> you don't smoke dope? >> listen, i'll have cocktails until -- >> i know that. >> to the face. >> but just [ inaudible ]. >> point well taken, kimberly. is there another way to take vodka that i'm not aware of? >> there is not. >> we're not going to talk about it. >> running wild and brawling in new york city, i kid you not, talking about an annual tradition called santa-con. >> no way, bob. you are kidding me. i took my son fishing every year. we had a gre spot, not easy to find, but worth it. but with co makg it hard to breathe, i thought those days might be over. so my doctor prescribed symbicort. it helps s

poor mondale but i tell you i don't have any problem with it. wish everyone would get stoned. if they do, doesn't bother me. >> they're going to do what they want to do. nobody's baby-sitter. >> how does she stay so thin? >> i'm personally against it. but that's my -- meaning it's not for me. i like some red wine, what's it. >> dana doesn't either. >> this rare topic we all agree on and think you're going to do what you want. >> i don't think it's going to change their viewpoint so much. >> listen, i'll have cocktails till -- >> i know that. >> you'll take vodka to the face. >> i just don't like -- all right. >> where else do you take it, kimberly? some way to take vodka i'm not aware of? >> there is not. there is not. >> directly ahead drunk santas running wild and brawling in new york city. i kid you not, santa con, an annual tradition. >> no way, bob. >> you're kidding me. ♪ ♪ >>> last saturday new york endured santacon where thousands dressed as santas descended on manhattan and drank till they puked. here's a taste. >> oh [ bleep ]. >> don'

kennedy and people, bill clinton, walter mondale, i can list practically every presidential candidate on the democratic ticket for those 60 years, they all turned to him because they realized he was kind of serving as a kind of liberal conscience to that generation of political people. and the a way they needed -- in a way they needed his validation to be able to appeal to the liberal constituency that he tended to represent. >> but a hard-headed kind of liberalism. >> that's right. >> which is where -- he was so close to stevenson and did not make the transition to kennedy overnight. could you talk about that transition to shift from libertyville to hyannis? >> well, that's very interesting because you used the word hardheaded. he was very disappointed -- he, obviously, adored stevenson, e worked for him twice. but be at the same time, he felt that stevenson seemed rather passive on the issue of civil rights. and he was very, as tom points out, he had woken to that issue from having that visit in the mid 1940s to the south. and he tried to urge stevenson to make a commitment to prote

i'm looking for, i guess the old phrase was in the mondale campaign, "where's the beef?"establish a better agenda for people who are not doing well in this economy? >> well, first of all, i think he's going to definitely be pushing for this minimum wage but has to push for jobs. if you don't have a job, you don't have to worry about minimum wage because you don't have any wages. and i think there is a good sign that came yesterday. we finally got to some kind of reasonable compromise, chris, and i think it showed -- and i keep thinking about that picture of boehner in his press conference when he basically is saying, tea party, we tried it your way, it didn't work. ted cruz, we tried it your way, shutting down the government, it didn't work. now it's going to be my way, and the president's way. and that hopefully is a reasonable way to begin to come together to address some of these issues. and i think -- i actually think the american people have emboldened not only speaker boehner, but also the president hopefully to come to some type of agreement where we can move forwa

two conservatives to liberal, and usually the main stay of liberals is the guy bob, who ran walter mondale's campaign, one of the least fruitful presidential campaigns and then personally caught up in personal scandals and ailes was redeeming people on the left and would owe him. he is not a dumb guy but he is not the most forceful advocate for liberal rhythm --ism or democrats. one of the thing is i learn, just didn't make the cut in the book, there's a camera they have and they -- i'm told this is absolutely true -- they're sort of sort the women who are on because there's a slightly -- by the degree of attractiveness and attractiveness for the legs and it's the seat of the front right where they have put the woman with the. best legs there and have a camera that goes directly to the legs and they have what they call the leg cam, and that is to accentuate the sleekness of design of that particular person on air. so if you're asking whether attractiveness is part of the formula, i would say, you bet. >> another question on your right. >> i'm megan. i'm curious what you think will happen to

in 1980 four, really the beginning of 1985, after the walter mondale landslide loss, a congressmen includingre for the democratic leadership council. that became the insurgent vehicle for changing the democratic party and ending what was a long losing streak in presidential elections. host: what you mean when you say the new democrats? democratsl, the new tagline for the political movement that we started -- if , theecall, in the 1980's democrats suffer the three worst defeat in electoral college votes in the history of american politics. highery had never lost a percentage of electoral votes in three consecutive elections than the democrats had since the beginning of parties in 1828. essentially, the great new deal andition had split us under we were losing overwhelmingly, so our reform movement was called the new democrats, and what we try to do was reconnect the democratic party with its first principles -- opportunity for all, andrew jackson's credo, it was opportunity for all, no special privilege -- special privilege for non-. during the clinton years, we created 22.5 million jobs. we

. >> actions of mondale. >> it was worse.rcentage of electoral votes than any party had won in three consecutive elections in the country. we were out of power. we were out of ideas. completely out of touch with the country. we had to reconnect. >> is obama a new democrat? >> be honest, al. >> come on, al, stay with me here. >> truth to power. >> has the democratic party come a long way from where they were in 1992 ideologically? >> i think the party has moved a lot since where we were in 1992. >> to the left? >> somewhat to the left, maybe. but -- >> somewhat maybe? somewhat to left maybe? >> right now obama care is getting a lot of attention and it's very important that the democratic party and obama we fix this health care program because the credibility government is on the line and one of the reasons we're in such trouble in the 1970s and 1980s people lost fate in the government's ability to do something. the other thing he needs to do, he needs get on the path of an economic growth program. i mean, my view is that one o