. >> senator moneyson -- munson. >> wait a minute. dad, senator munson on the phone. the phone. >> tell him i've gone out. >> why? >> because johnny will want me to do some things that will obligate me. >> i mean, why would you want me to lie? >> son, this is a washington, d.c. kind of lie. that's when the person knows you're lying and you know he knows you know. senator munson will understand. >> ok. if you say so. he's not here. he went out. >> do you know where i might reach him? >> no, ma'am, he did not leave a forwarding address. >> thank you. >> the hart building wasn't there when that was -- >> the building he was going into is still there. that's the national women's building. >> a washington, d.c. kind of lie. >> the times in which people will go on record as saying something that's essentially the opposite of what is happening because it's a safer response to something. sort of the same thing as memorandum that are written to not let you know what actually happened at the particular meeting. in this case, henry fonda is playing a character who has been nomin