while in mongolia, the traditional herding lifestyle is threatened as drought forces a new generation to the capital in search of opportunities. [makelson derilus sakg spanish] [greetings exchanged in spanish] [man on podium speaking spanish] [man speaking spanish] [both speaking spanish] [derilus speaking] isabel rivera-collazo: we think of migrants and refugees as these people that are coming to take over our country. we don't see that these are the people that got to the point that it was so hard for them to survive that it was easier to face death than to stay. because that's what they are facing when they decide to get on a boat or they decide to cross a border or they decide to cross the desert, they're facing their own death, they're facing the death of their loved ones, their children, and that is a better decision than staying behind. reporter:ook athe size of this storm on satellite at this hour. tonight a direct hit in haiti slamming ashore at 145 miles per hour. [indistinct voices] [derilus speaking] [whistle blowing] [cesar palencia chavez speaking spanish] [pastor gustav

almost fifty million animals graze on mongolia's grassland. or in certain places from our times or more. to get the number of grazing animals down to a sustainable level u.n. stuff has proposed a grazing tax the more animals are her own ins and the worse the pasture land the higher the tax levy the idea is to encourage small herds. some livestock farmers own over ten thousand cows or goats. but not now and two year old she bought she and her family keep some eight hundred sheep and goats as well as one hundred horses and eighty head of cashel. she likes the idea of a grazing time. she says the grass is deteriorating from year to year. the number was when we go home in the autumn and winter the grass should be this high. grass is nowhere near as good as it used to be and that's mainly because there are more families or more livestock so the pasture is degenerating. or she bashes the spokes person for one hundred other herd of families she's done a lot to spread the idea of a pasture management tax. this is most of the herders are in favor of it

this week on global three thousand we're off to the steps of mongolia where intensive livestock farming is destroying land unlikely herds what can be done about it. we head to chicago a city with a sky high murder rate and a west side blighted by drugs gangs and despair. but first to east in kenya the al-shabaab terror group recruits their heavily sowing the seeds of mistrust among locals. rose in two thousand and six in the midst of a bloody civil war in somalia its aim to establish an islamic emirate stretching beyond the country's borders but now the group has been pushed back to somalia's southern areas and driven out of key urban centers like the capital mogadishu. with al qaeda terror network notorious for suicide bombings guerrilla warfare and a rigid interpretation of sharia law while the exact figures are hard to come by experts believe between seven thousand and nine thousand members many of them come from neighboring kenya that's led to increased prejudice against muslims there but now a group of women is doing some pushing back of their own. making so. to make money and ther

our undersecretary recently went to mongolia. mongolia has made a choice. they could have partnered with their neighbor, china, to have an air force. and they didn't, they chose alaska and the united states instead. these partnerships are going to pay off, i think, for the united states for many decades to come. the third area of cooperation i wanted to highlight before taking some questions builds on our success as a country in space. and otherwise, requires us to work closely with our allies. that is true more today than was 10 or 15 years ago. domains a war-fighting in the united states is the best at the world and space, and our adversaries know it. they are developing the capability to deny us the use of space in crisis or war, and we have to think about that and develop the capability to be able to defend our assets on orbit, and be able to operate through any crisis. i cannot think of any military that doesn't come in some way, depend on space in order to be successful. where the national space strategy calls for stronger international partnerships,

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class the gobi desert is huge dry and freezing cold it's also considered the most fertile part of mongolia with china's community of wine lovers going by double digits every year why don't make wine there. a vineyard on the edge of the gobi desert in the spring time the great finds are cleared off after spending that cold dry winter covered in protective soil it takes several weeks to resurrect the vineyard which is artificially irrigated but even if no one funky isn't at all put off by the challenges. ok even though it's expensive and complicated we said let's do this we want to be able to make our own high quality chinese wine since setting up the con and winery in the new province seven years ago one fung has been granted a number of accolades she discovered her love of wine in germany where she lived for a decade the vintner and her staff are always experimenting to get tastes just right she doesn't have a professional qualification but you don't necessarily need one to be able to identify the perfect flavor so what's her secret. my wine palate. i love wine. drinking it is my hobby and

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we know there has been a variety of contenders in terms of location, mongolia, the demilitarised zonengapore was seen by top us officials as a good neutral choice for the trump kim talks. in 2015, the leaders of china and taiwan held historic talks right here, the first in more than 60 years. the us and singapore have a close relationship will stop singapore have also has diplomatic ties with north korea, but they suspended all trade with the country in november last year. interesting to hear the reasons why singapore was chosen. now, let's brief you some other business stories. uk supermarkets sainsbury‘s and asda will have to sell off at least 73 stores for their merger to get the go—ahead according to new research. the new supermarket group would become the largest in the uk by market share. but the £15 billion deal is set to face huge scrutiny by britain's competition and markets authority. music streaming app tidal has been accused of inflating audience figures for albums by beyonce and kanye west, unfairly boosting their royalty payments. tidal denies the allegations in a norweg

but i mean for mongolia look it may use the money but not. at this time a giant american company the united fruit company owned huge amounts of landing water. and much of that land they were not using was just being held taken while many guatemalans are starving because they didn't have the land to grow food. enough. right now in the name on a welcome keep that i.e. the admiral. gone or is. there. no one month and then if the when. and get done those are the three cause. i don't know what to get. yeah then again as you know but going to get the end of fills us. now in atlanta. and it's going up and. so president arbenz of the guatemalan government decreed a land reform program this land reform program would have forced the united fruit company to sell its own used land so it could be divided up and given to poor families the united fruit company was very unhappy with this they went to the united states government the u.s. government then concluded that these socialist orientation of guatemala was dangerous to the united states. a gate. there

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>> switzerland, new zealand, among -- mongolia, dmz. that was the question. >> katy, what do you think, during the summit the phrase was, check exactly, a nuclear-free korean peninsula. what does it imply that south korea. >> we're leaving this program at this point to go to the council on foreign relations in washington for a discussion on "brexit" and what the united kingdom dom deter will mean from the eu, britain's role in the world stage and u.s. relations with britain and the eu. live coverage just getting underway here on c-span two. >> i will be presiding over today's discussion.

it right now really it's not that big of an issue before you know a lot of this was being done in mongolia there's a massive chinese company out there so coal was being able used to feel the electric grid for that now we're looking at big quinn farms moving to places like canada and iceland where we have cleaner energy and also the way that it's done i mean we have to think about let's go back a couple of decades and people are talking about the internet saying the internet is going to be so energy consuming and there are there's not going to be a you know enough room or cyberspace out there for all of us well there is and this might be the same story with bitcoin and other crypto currencies and we might be saying the sky is falling when really it's not that that this energy is actually there that it's available and that this part of the sector these crypto currencies actually you know really won't take up of that much in the long run as we put more energy out there first of all and second of all as this whole industry progress is as you mentioned there's not only one crypto currency out t

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bureau when this meeting takes place onjune 12 but we know that other locations have been considered, mongoliaays thought singapore was excellent. because donald trump and kim jong—un, singapore was excellent. because donald trump and kimjong—un, they have to sit down and have a meeting. but really, the details of what i was talking about, that has to be worked out by teams from both countries. you possibly need delegations, representatives also from china, and south korea. where are these people going to go? meeting rooms set up. in singapore, they will lock down a hole 5—star hotel and get to the discussions weeks in advance. when those two leaders arrive, there is something for them to sign an something to agree on, even if it goes the other way round, they first had their meeting. they leave it to their delegations to work out the details. you need facilities to do that. the humble bicycle has been a mainstay of china's city streets for decades. but in the past few months, giant mountains of discarded frames have been cropping up around the country. that's because authorities have been imp

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the coming days earlier he had talked about two or three countries being considered singapore and mongolia were mentioned but then donald trump brought up the possibility that the meeting could happen where the into korean summit happened at the demilitarized zone that separates the two koreas i think that would please a south korea if it did go ahead of course there were the historic pictures of monday and kim jong un crossing over the concrete border at the d.m.z. and donald trump reportedly liked what he saw when he saw those pictures and might like to see a similar scene when he has his meeting with kim jong un but for the moment it still has not been confirmed by either side or a customer of out there in seoul cathy thank you and now in india at least seventy people have died after a powerful dust storms hit the northern states of rock just on top or dish the storms have left a trail of destruction of collapsed houses fallen trees and dead livestock dust storms are common in india during the summer months but this scale is unusual officials said the death toll could rise. does a journ

singapore sounds pretty good, and mongolia is one. i know it sounds like it is off the table now but those are the two that if you were going to go to a third country and it was advisable, this is a judgment call it feels a like something we've just done along the way. if it were me i would make the call and then over to a third country singapore mongolia. >> do you have a different perspective would it make sense? >> let's finish with the location. >> my first choice he seems to bike tlike to take the leaders . i think what he said makes a lot of sense on this question itself to me so much diplomacy is about momentum so i feel like i've longer if he is in terms of the venue and the timing to materialize the more chance that it can be postponed or fall through. already over the weekend, we saw things like americans think it's because of the sanctions but it's not. if you like the longer it takes to materialize and the more the chance the momentum could fail and it might not even have been. >> i'm very certain thai am vere summit is go

i actually like mongolia.ut singapore is it's not going to be in china was the chinese want to claw their way back into the can nuke rye disaition process. and they've been on the line of influence. and it's not in the demilitarized zone. and it would feed the euphoria, continue the euphoria that south koreans have over reunification. when you think about moon jay in, it's undercutting the efforts of the international community. singapore is a great place to hold the talks with the north koreans. >> you are the expert on north korea. you've written books about it, lectured on it. here's the money question. how do you handicap trump's success at the summit? >> i'm actually quite optimistic. i'm going to go out on a limb. this is a not a kim question. this is a question of whether president trump will use the elements of american power to protect us and the international community. i think he will do it. you know, on tuesday he agated the iran deal. he set himself a very high bar for success in north korea. if h

the others are switzerland, singapore and mongolia as i understand it. also from the pres.'s security aspect this is a secure military base that he would be going to so i think the secret service would be comforted by him being there. i don't think the geography and who is traveling the most is an issue here. >> the pres. says within a couple days the plan moving forward, great to have you, thank you, sir. count me in, the soon to be formerly known as the boy scouts, trace gallagher here with reaction to the change in the girl scouts are not celebrating. the trump administration takes on planned parenthood, tracking an unprecedented attack on reproductive rights. we investigate and debate next. they all got a story about what happened to 'em. man 2: it was raining, there was only one way out. i could feel the barb wire was just digging into the paint. man: two bulls were fighting, (thud) bam hit the truck. try explaining that to your insurance company. woman: another ding, another scratch. it'll just be another chapter in the story. every scar tells a story, and you can tell

there was discussion of mongolia, a place within close proximity.rom a security perspective. also north korean planes can they fly that far. they seem to have settled on singapore as a neutral location. the question now is timing. with the release of these prisoners, what is key here is that the u.s. got a concession it considers important. which lays a groundwork for the two leaders to sit down. >> wonderful for the families. >> absolutely. >> thanks for being with us. president trump escalating his war on the media. threatening to pull network media credentials over what he considers negative news coverage. we will talk it over next. ( ♪ ) (sustained horn honk) advisor: (on phone) jane, this is jim from onstar, i've contacted help and they're on their way. woman: okay. advisor: don't worry i'm going to stay with you until help arrives. woman: thank you. that deer, it just... just came out of nowhere. is part of a bigger picture. that bigger picture is statewide mutual aid. california years ago realized the need to work together. teamwork is import

there was discussion of mongolia, a place within close proximity to north korea, because travel for kimg-un, far away from north korea, a challenge from a security perspective, also north korean planes, not very reliable, can they fly that far? there was discussion of switzerland, as well, because kim jong-un as a child studied there. they seem to have settled on singapore as a neutral location. the question now is timing, mid to late june is the timing there, but with the release of the prisoners, what's very key here is the u.s. got a concession it considered important, which lays the groundwork then for the two leaders to sit down across from each other.ly removes a key obstacle there and wonderful for the families. jim, thank you. >>> president trump escalating his war on the media, threatening to pull network media credentials over what he considers negative news coverage. we'll talk it over with the media critic of "the baltimore sun" next. turn up your swagger game with one a day men's. ♪ get ready for the wild life a complete multivitamin with key nutrients, plus b vitamins for

always coming up for you with a story about a different kind of cocktail that is helping people in mongolia struggling with their pollution and look at that and also ahead the deadly ebola virus that striking africa again this time it's the d.l.c. the democratic republic of congo dealing with a confirmed outbreak which will be the regional director from the world health organization in just a moment. when welcome to another look at the international focus we still have disturbed weather affecting a good part of the middle east this area cloud moving out of iraq into iran has been producing some rather lively showers very gusty winds coming in behind a bit of lift the dust and sand as a result of that what we have to think atlanta looking at some other wet weather too just around the southern end of the caspian sea and northern parts of iran see some heavy showers and that is making its way further east with over towards afghanistan still very wet and it's a good parts of turkey northern areas of syria still seeing some lively showers as you go on into saturday we will start to see those sho

have been leading got with 30 women can is activists from 16 countries including russia, china, mongolia, japan, guam, hawaii. we come from all around the world. there's a huge delegation from the u.s. to be here in south korea at this historic juncture since the declaration leading up to the june 12 summit. we're here to support the korea peace process. it was quite devastating news to learn last night, you know, moon jae-in, basically, was notified that this letter had been sent to north korea. and it is -- it started out very werei mean, a lot of tears shed. we have been spending several days with the south korean women . we are organizing another women's peace walk along the dmz tomorrow. 80 million hearts are broken across the korean peninsula. the korean peoe -- moon jae-in has about 85% support rate in south korea. the people are very heartened by the gestures of peace and diplomacy by the two korean leaders. to suddenly pull the carpet that way, you know, i just came from a candlelight vigil in the square. a lot of the speakers at the demonstration were angry. i mean, you know, i

desert is huge it's straw and freezing cold but it's also considered the most fertile part of mung mongolia with china's community of wine of is growing every year why not make wine that. a vineyard on the edge of the gobi desert in the spring time the great finds are cleared off after spending that cold dry winter covered in protective soil it takes several weeks to resurrect the vineyard which is or deficient you're a gated but no one funky isn't at all put off by the challenges the wife will look at even though it's expensive and complicated we said let's do this we want to be able to make our own high quality chinese wine since setting up the con and winery in the name john province seven years ago one fund has been granted a number of accolades she discovered her love of wine in germany where she lived for a decade the vintner and her staff are always experimenting to get tastes just right she doesn't have a professional qualification but you don't necessarily need one to be able to identify the perfect flavor so what's her secret. my wine palate. i love wine. drinking it is my hobby a

i mean, the others are switzerland, singapore, and mongolia, as i understand it.so from the president's security aspect, this is a very secure military base. he would be going to. i think the secret service would be somewhat comforted by him being there. i don't think the geography and who is traveling the most is really an issue here. >> shannon: all right. the president says we will know, hopefully in a couple days, the plan. general, always great to have you. thank you, sir. count me in as the new tagline intended to attract boys & girls club boy scouts. trace gallagher has a reaction. why the girl scouts are not sovereign. trump administration takes on planned parenthood. we are tracking with the group calls for an unprecedented attack on reproductive rights. we will separate fact from fiction when we investigate and debate next. there was an idea. to bring together a group of remarkable people. to help save the universe... from paying too much on their car insurance. hey, there's cake in the breakroom... what are you doing? um...nothing? marvel studios' aveng

>> switzerland, new zealand, among -- mongolia, dmz. that was the question. >> katy, what do you think, during the summit the phrase was, check exactly, a nuclear-free korean peninsula. what does it imply that south korea. >> we're leaving this program at this point to go to the council on foreign relations in washington for a discussion on "brexit" and what the united kingdom dom deter will mean from the eu, britain's role in the world stage and u.s. relations with britain and the eu. live coverage just getting underway here on c-span two. >> i will be presiding over today's discussion. we're lucky enough to have joining with us via videoconference, matthew goodwin from the uk. to my right, jennifer hillman from georgetown university law center and ed luce from "the financial times." as i was thinking about this today, coming in i was thinking it is nice for once with everything going on in the united states to focus on someone else's internal problems for a change. as we think about it, that in many ways we have, we're we're 330 days

then you have switzerland or sweden and if not, then over to a third country, singapore, mongolia. >> sue mi, , victor, do you hava different perspective? would it make sense to do it in dmz? >> you can answer that. i wanted to comment on your comment. but let's finish with the location question. >> so my first choice would even mar-a-lago. [laughing] >> he seems to like to take asian leaders to mar-a-lago, right? i think what mark said makes a lot of sense. on the question of, to me so much diplomacy is about momentum, right? so i feel like the longer it takes for the summit in terms of venue and timing to materialize, the more chance that it could be postponed or fall through. and already like over the weekend we saw some sort of scratchy things on, saying the americans think it's because of sanctions. it's not. you keep up this nasty talk, so when and so forth. i feel like the longer this thing takes to materialize, the more chance there is that the momentum could flail and might be postponed and might not even happen. >> i just want to say, which i almost never discussed with thes

there are low financing vehicles in mongolia going default.i-government enties go default, what will happen to i you -- high yield property developers? is a big problem in the junk is a big problem in the junk bond market. haidi: is there a systemic risk? >> not yet. has very little trade, it is very different from china. i would say this is liquidity risk. sense, i don't know. opinionur bloomberg columnist. some of the movers in japan are moving to the downside. mitsubishi, down by as much as 4%. a rare glints of green with nintendo -- pokemon products being announced for smart phones and the nintendo switch. taking a look elsewhere in japanese markets, more of a fluctuating future when it comes to the nikkei 225. a little bit of a breather with that 10 year treasury yield, a little bit of pressure coming off dollar-yen. it comes to when the state of these volatile markets. this is bloomberg. ♪ markets. this is bloomberg. ♪ paul: the trump administration may reduce chinese visas as part of chinese intrusion on u.s. intellectual property. it m

difficult to say right now just a couple of days ago all the talk was about singapore lumber toward mongolia as the two front runners both make sense fairly neutral have good relations with everybody else in the region and could be a decent platform for ongoing talks that would have to take place after the summit but a single tweet by donald trump and then the world has to revolve around it and very quickly reports are coming out that the north koreans would also be happy to go back to punjab the site of the moon kim summit and donald trump has that in his sights now as well so i guess now that's the front runner clearly mr trump and mr kim they both like a good photo op we're looking at you're talking to us pictures of the north korean leader meeting the south korean leader across that line of demarcation because not formally a border because they're not formally at peace but the headline grabbing sequences the front pages of course for both leaders would be huge if it was there inside the d.m.z. yeah i think the initial sense was maybe it wasn't a grand enough venue but i think the optics

inner mongolia, a 10th of 1%. one of the big gainers, gaining nearly 8% in child apparel. haidi: certainly seeing those moves as predicted. let's get more on this story moving these consumer and children related stocks. china has reportedly considering scrapping the rest of the limits on the number of children that a family can have, that will draw to the close one of the world's most controversial social experiments. it has been on for about four decades now. let's go to our bloomberg news editor with the details. if you ask a demographer, they've -- they might say better late than never, or too little too late. reporter: that's right. we are expecting an initial bounce in some of those vb related stocks, but whether it will last long term is the question. in 2015 when they scrapped the one child policy, we did see gains for a couple of weeks in the baby related stocks. infant famil formula makers, the toy makers, related to child care and school supplies, but it was not maintained for that reason you mentioned. maybe this is a little bit too little too late. what exactly

its name had been floated out there over the past month or so, including mongolia.ld have preferred to have it at the demilitarised zone between north and south korea, because he felt that it was appropriate to meet their in the country where they could be celebrations after this meeting. when you talk to us officials however, they said that singapore was a more obvious choice, because it was perceived as being neutral, it is a safe location, modern, it has the facilities to her something like this, and is still relatively close to north korea, a place that the us has strong relations with, as well. so when you look at the different areas in eastern asia, that could be impartial, it was one of the front runners from the very beginning. thank you very much again. anthony zettel with the latest in washington. 90 minutes past five. this is bbc news at 5pm — the headlines: the prime minister apologises for the uk's role in the treatment of abdul hakim belhaj and fatima boudchar, the couple were forcibly returned to libya in 2004. the bank of england keeps interest rates

this is for bloomberg subscribers only. .ave a look at it, tv ♪ says mongolia's mining sector can government shows it will abide by agreements. expansione world sees of the line as a test case for future investment. rio tinto also says it is ready to accept a three point $5 billion deal with indonesia for its interest in the copper and gold mine. there with trawl the concern freeport-mcmoran striking agreement to transfer steaks and local companies. official saying nothing has been designed in the court may still -- haidi: we are heading into the open in jakarta. it does not look like the outflows have abated, certainly when you look at etf's, about $80 million in outflows continuing. we have a bit of positivity when and gainso the jci when it comes to dollar rupiah. ♪ es to dollar rupiah. ♪ >> the asia-pacific markets heading south amid geopolitical concerns. trade relations back in the headlines. the president is not happy about the way the talks with beijing are going. and cars, which ones are benefiting the most? >> coming up, buying and selling. we will discuss. loomberg mark

after she was left dangling from the fourth floor of a residential building in china's inner mongoliarl, who lived on the fifth floor, had been left home alone by her mother, according to c-c-t-v. the girl tried to get out through the window, but apparently fell from the balcony. she was left dangling precariously outside the window on the fifth floor, clinging onto a guardrail. two local residents were able to reach out through an adjacent window and save the girl. (ken) as temperatures heat up -- sharks off the west coast are now starting to show up. these are pictures taken from a helicopter flying over aptos waters near santa cruz. pilots say they counted more than 15 mid-sized great whites hanging out near the cement ship. no word yet on how many sharks expected to be out in full- force this season, just last week... legislation aimed at providing more information into the lives of california's great white sharks passed with a unanimous vote. the bill would grant more resources to scientists and researchers studying local sharks to hopefully make beaches safer as great white shar

security could be an issue in other countries, like mongolia, where there are cautions about mr.im's ability to travel long distances. singapore is safe, but it is 3000 plus miles from p on yen -- trump floated the peace house in sounded like an exercise in crowdsourcing. james, texas. guest: good morning. thank you for c-span. to make him america first is an empty political slogan. it is meaningless. if you want to divide it into ways. let's look at domestic. we are the wealthiest country in the world. and our schools are crumbling. our foreign policy is being dominated and operated by the military defense contractors and palestinian genocide taking place. and we have a completely corrupt political system. citizens united open the door, pay to play is the way to go. host: ok. we will leave it there. james in texas. in matters of foreign affairs, last week the french president week thed -- last french president talked to congress and urged them to reject isolationism and nationalism. here is what the french president said last week. >> let me say, we have two possible ways that w

from mongolia, to thailand. there's all these routes the defectors take. not only that, interview them in a hiding place. to try to verify how many of their testimonies might be true or might not be true. i did all this research. i went to africa to try to understand who might be in the audience, for example. who ended up being a contract worker who was shipped. the media was reporting they were chinese actors. the media would make stuff up. i needed to understand from every aspect of this country. from the border area of china, to try to get to what is at the heart of north korea. another thing i realized was in 2008 i went in for harper magazine to cover the new york philharmonic concert. trying to cover north korea by going there, you get a pr message that the government wants you to go right about it and spread though word. it is really like going to disney world and you are in a tour with cinderella. that is what they want you to tell the world about it. but in this case, it is the world's most brutal regime. show meis is what they and i go out and te

>> switzerland sweden mongolia singapore, dmz, even south korea, even vietnam, how do i think was considered. >> great. >> that was an easy question. >> katie, what you think, in the summit the phrase was a nuclear free korean peninsula and what does it imply that south korea has to give up, that the u.s. has to give up in terms of the alliance, extended deterrence? what does it mean that they've agreed that, as opposed to north korea's denuclearization? >> do i have to use this? maybe my microphone was broken. anyway, i always try to learn something from north korea and specialist board in north korea, lived there and maybe worked there and there are a bunch of them, including the former -- who was actually ordered to keep his mouth shut during the peace summit that was going on. and there are also a lot of strategic good thinkers out of the 25,000 north koreans, some, some of them in canada, , some f them in london, some of them in copenhagen. and i been in contact with them, and they all came out and sent me actually nice document saying that north korea's so-called in korean word -- [ina