ken starr's office did not come out looking good in their handling of the monica lewinsky matter.is said, she would not have touched that with a ten-foot pole. after monica asked to talk to her lawyer, frank carter, not once but multiple times, the problem was this was where, again, the starr prosecutors had some to so thoroughly distrust the clintons, they saw this as a chance finally, as jackie bennett said to me, "to get ahead of the curve" to get clinton. that's, unfortunately, not the job of federal prosecutors--to get ahead of the curve--so they really lost their perspective here, and went full bore after monica lewinsky, really mishandling that in many, many ways. and it's a tragic piece of the story, as you know, bob, if you read that chapter of the sting at the ritz-carlton. it's still chilling to me to see it as they are interrogating monica and trying to get her to give up information on bill clinton. she said to me quite sincerely that she was thinking about jumping out the window. - linda tripp is another famous character and another famous enigma, and you take pains

and needless to say, monica lewinski was, i think, a serious transgression. so i think it was a different kind of breach of the law with clinton and i think it was a very serious breach of the law. >> delan, florida, go ahead, carol. >> caller: hello? >> please, go ahead. >> caller: can you hear me now? >> we're listening. caller: i want to comment on what the mr. tyrrell said about the "wall street journal" and i just discovered this "wall street journal" about this information about books and that's what i like to do is read and i find you get a wide variety of different types of books from their reviews. >> and, carol, what are you currently reading? >> caller: well, i just picked up a book that i've read for a long ago. it's by an english woman called molly hughes and it's about her life growing up at the end of the 19th century? london. and i just finished going through that again. >> all right. well, thank you for calling in today. we appreciate it. we'll move on to bob in kokomo, indiana, hi, bob? >> caller: hi, how are you doing today? >> good. >> cal

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he -- bill clip conmade a big deal about having consulted his ministers or whatever during the monica lewinsky situation -- and then -- in that situation. not a good one. >> right. he believes in pro choice. >> mispoint he the first democrat is this an advancement in some way because i think obviously again the country is hugely divided but the secularists who seem to be growing some sort of majority population in urban areas versus suburbs and rural areas are less and less inclined to care what a president's religion is, if at all, during an election but is president obama symbolic of the fact that maybe we've moved beyond needing to proclaim your religion in order to run for president. >> you know, i don't know how we could say that. because in fact he's been pressed about his religion more than any president in my lifetime. >> but he hasn't -- >> or john f. kennedy over being a catholic. >> he wasn't -- >> as a -- >> pressed more than any president in my lifetime over his religion and called on repeatedly to justify his religion and to prove that he is a good christian. and i think that it'

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monica lewinsky. their interior monica strafing around town with guys with ak-47s hanging out, picking up sunnis are random. two weeks later he found a civilian corpse in the dump with power drills in the body. they had been tortured and killed. everybody knew these were the minister of interior vehicle is being used by militiamen or by police acting in conjunction with volition men. so i don't want to minimize the shia suffering. certainly there were shia civilians suffering much more in terms of numeric representation. but the sunni population began to feel threatened and from mobile and that was the real shift as for the first two years, resistance groups are confident about the ability to get rid of americans. their attitudes is very contemptuous. they never ruled iraq, kurds, persians. there had been educated. they didn't really believe the order was going to day. but they were increasingly aggressive combined with shia dominated police army and it began to have an effect. by 2006, was leaning sun

on the monica lewinsky matter, it was being looked at by a very rigid prosecutor.d not put it in jeopardy. we did not pollute the environment by going in and saying, "what is the deal with you and this chick?" >> you were asked a number of times to define things. what does it mean when he says blah, blah, blah. a lot of them you ducked. the white house line was that this was a political line the special prosecutor was pursuing. the president was repeatedly denying some of the things that was happening. you had to be the spokesman and repeat that. >> i repeated what the statement was he had issued. it was asked and answered. the president is doing the job he was elected to do. the press needs to find the off button because they were pursuing the thing to ridiculously. >> how tough to get for you? that line where you knew something was happening whether it was legislatively, a scandal, or an event where you have more information did he want to pass on. >> i think that is something you learn to deal with because you learn that not only do you have to give accurate inf

he said to us had we christians been praying for bill clinton like we should have been, maybe monica lewinsky never would have made it into the oval office. >> you race to great plans but first of all, just to go back, do you regret that personal and public nature of that tweet about your brother? >> guest: yes, really, really do come and that was just a bad reaction because it really made me in three dealing with this disease as i do and don't give it to my dad earlier than he really had it. >> host: you told a story about the three hands coming up to prefer bill clinton and everyone for bush in your congregation. do you believe of the current political environment is so polarized the has been a lot of anger directed at barack obama in particular. do you ever prefer barack obama? >> guest: i do and i even talked about that. it's interesting. i've said called the things i write in the book and i may have written this in the book, i disagree with his politics as you know in the book but i like the fact he still dates his wife. when you look in the community we live today. you have 40 million c

and reminded us had we christians been praying for bill clinton like we should have been maybe monica lewinsky never would have made it to the oval office reva >> host: you raise it to great points. first to go back, do you regret the personal and public nature of that tweet at your brother? >> guest: yeah, i mean i really, really do, and that was a bad -- the was a bad reaction. because it really made me angry. dealing with this disease as i do, and don't give it to my dad earlier than when he really had it. >> host: you tell the story about three am skilling up to pray for bill clinton and everybody for george bush in your congregation. do you believe the current political environment has been so polarized and there has been a lot as anchor director of barack obama in particular. do you ever pray for barack obama? >> guest: i do, and i talk about that -- it's interesting. i said -- with all the things i write in the book i might have even written this in the book, the fact that, you know, i like the fact that -- i disagree with his politics, as you know in the book, but i like the fact he st

. >> a good idea in 1995, a bad idea when monica lewinsky came along. >> i want to come back to that in a minute. this is the serious business of your job. in sending messages from the white house podium, -- you were there in -- on 911 -- what role did you have in sending messages and were you conscious that you were the messenger? >> yes. on september 12, that was the first time that george bush said at war publicly. that night when he addressed the nation, he spoke of reassurance and i hope. the next day he used the word clock -- use the word "war." you realized that troops were starting to move. america had a seriousness of purpose after 9/11. it was my job to make a statement within 48 hours. >> was that a deliberate strategy? how's that decision made? >> it was a last-minute summit with prime minister blare. president bush returned from the summit. it was a last-bitch hope that -- last-dietz hope -- last- ditch hope. reporters literally jump from their seats and ran. >> i did not know that reporters had jumped from their seats. did you push back and grill those? >> they had been

>> no during the monica lewinsky business? >> i said this is the statement i have. i was very conscious since i didn't know what the whole truth was and i never went beyond the statement that was approved by lawyers and handed to it and i said i'm not going to parse this statement because i prided myself on being on top of the information, having the good brief and giving it to the american people. it was a matter that was being investigated by a very determined and aggressive prosecutor. the president had some privileges, very few of them which remained even after executive privilege and attorney-client privilege that we couldn't put in jeopardy. so we didn't pollute the environment by saying, hey, what's the deal with you and this chick? [laughter] >> i would have a subpoena on my back. >> you were asked any number of times to define things. what does it mean when he said, blah, blah, blah. >> timing, other reports that were out there. they came to you in one form or another and you ducked or talked around. the white house line was this was a political line that t

. -- when monica lewinsky came along. >> let's come back to the crisis and talk about this moment becausehis is the serious business. sending messages from the white house podium, ari, i know you were there when the war started and took place. what role did you play in sending messages? were you conscious you were the messenger? >> on september 12, that was the first time george bush declared war publicly. that night when he addressed the nation he spoke of reassurance and the next day he deliberately showed up and used the word of war. that changed everything because all of the sudden york press secretary -- you realize troops are starting to move. that sense dramatic signals around the world. it was my job to make the statement that saddam hussein has 48 hours to leave. >> you issued the ultimatum. was that a deliberate strategy? why the white house press secretary? >> it was a last-minute issue with prime minister blair. we were hoping to saddam hussein would leave the country. it appeared that he would. it was a last-ditch hope to say he has 48 hours. i said saddam hussein has 48 hour

. -- when monica lewinsky came along. >> let's come back to the crisis and talk about this moment because this is the serious business. sending messages from the white house podium, ari, i know you were there when the war started and took place. what role did you play in sending messages? were you conscious you were the messenger? >> on september 12, that was the first time george bush declared war publicly. that night when he addressed the nation he spoke of reassurance and the next day he deliberately showed up and used the word of war. that changed everything because all of the sudden york press secretary -- you realize troops are starting to move. that sense dramatic signals around the world. it was my job to make the statement that saddam hussein has 48 hours to leave. >> you issued the ultimatum. was that a deliberate strategy? why the white house press secretary? >> it was a la-minute issue with prime minter blair. we were hoping to saddam hussein would leave the country. it appeared that he would. it was a last-ditch hope to say he has 48 hours. i said saddam hussein has 48 hours

she said, when you had your monica lewinsky scandal, you had months to investigate the president. why do we have to form a new government tomorrow? [laughter] that was her analogy. >> who do you think these people are? >> they do not really know who they are. there are a lot of different people who have never been put together before. when they have tried to come together, it has not worked. there was a movement several years ago to create a broad base coalition. it never really succeeded. you have a group that is largely agreed on negative propositions. it is hard to agree on a positive proposition. the president and the government have been careful not to allow people to formulate an alternative. the alternative is the government or chaos. one of the things we will see over and over when president mubarak talks is the word chaos. he is the alternative to chaos. the question is whether this is a revolt or a revolution. it is interesting to remember that when egypt had a clucoup in 1962, it was not called a revolution. it was called to the blessed movement. it did not have the nam

she said, when you had your monica lewinsky scandal, you had months to investigate the president. why do we have to form a new government tomorrow? [laughter] that was her analogy. >> who do you think these people are? >> they do not really know who they are. there are a lot of different people who have never been put together before. when they have tried to come together, it has not worked. there was a movement several years ago to create a broad base coalition. it never really succeeded. you hav a group that is largely agreed on negative propositions. it is hard to agree on a positive proposition. the president and the government have been careful not to allow people to formulate an alternative. the alternative is the government or chaos. one of the things we will see over and over when president mubarak talks is the word aos. he is the alternative to chaos. the question is whether this is a revolt or a revolution. it is interesting to remember that when egypt had a clucoup in 1962, it was not called a revolution. it was called to the blessed movement. it did not have the name r

bad idea when monica lewinsky came along. >> let's come back to the crisis and talk about this moment, because this is a serious business of your job. sending messages from the white house podium kamal ari, i know you were there, 9/11, you were there when the war started and took place. what role did you have in sending messages, and were you conscious that you were the messenger? >> yeah. on september 12, that was the first time that george bush used the word "war" publicly. that night when he addressed the nation, he spoke more of reassurance and hope, and the next day ratcheted it up and use the word "war." for me that changed everything. he realized things are starting to move, and that sent dramatic signals around the world, that the purpose changed after 9/11. in iraq, it was my job to make the statement that said, has 48 hours. >> you essentially issued the ultimatum. was that a deliberate strategy? how was that decision made? >> it was a last-minute summit in the azores with prime minister blair. we were hoping that saddam would the of the country. it was a last-ditch hope tha