we're still here with barry, monifa and michael. talking about the incarceration crisis.sis now to solutions. team, please tell me, what can we do now, people obviously will say don't commit the crime, people will say be responsible, don't do drugs, don't steal. all of us i think are in agreement on that but moving beyond that point, what do we do in terms of this mass incarceration thing? >> well, what's a solution. solution is a multi-step approach. first, education. not just education, but paid education. even if it's minimum wage to pay these folks to come in to get -- to learn reading, writing and arithmetic but for the black folks, also history courses, cultural courses, to find out about african-american history and ancient african history. then beyond that, paid job training and then job placement. i think once you educate a person and give a person a job, 90% of the crime will stop. >> we also have to support sound policy around prison and incarceration. we have to look at the sentencing laws in every state, the federal laws, and try and get our elected officials