you look at monodefense discretionary spending -- nondefense -- it's it's increased massively.ry easy to find cuts there. i personally do not want to cut defense spending. you don't need to cut it. and it doesn't necessarily mean that this particular budget plan means cutting defense spending, it just has to go through regular order. and it will go through regular order, through the committees, through each appropriations bill, and we'll fight it out as it goes. so i'm not as worried about it. these supposed rules that we've talked about are, hay don't necessarily pertain to just defense spending, so i think we can get on the right track here. maria: well, alexandria ocasio-cortez yesterday or this week said that she wants a wide open border, she wants this administration to overtake and reverse title 42, and she also is blaming the trump tax cuts and donald trump on all of this debt. watch this. >> reporter: congresswoman, quickly on the debt limit, democrats have been in charge for the past two years. do you think democrats have spent too much money? >> i think the largest co