but to effectively monotize a surf scheme.n get a lot of people you need a lot of criminals willing to work together. you also need, quite frankly, you need crooked postal workers. what we'll see is and, you know, the postal service without getting to too much detail. they are beginning to be able to track this stuff. you'll see that 700 tax refunds checks fraudulently obtained tax refund checks are being clavered along the same mail route. what does that mean? be, you know, all of this stuff is so reactive. we first see that, then you have to start at the bottom; right. with a mail carrier. you try to arrest the mail carrier and flip them. you get to the next step and the next step. and the people at the top of the pyramid are sophisticated. but you have to get through the hood layers. >> you start to sound like an episode of wire. >> it's hard. and, you know, our case was a great case. you know, not -- it was a great case but it was a aifd -- $65 million case. it's a $2 million problem. the people like me on the line are not

every time you turn around, google has evolved in something they haven't even started monotizing yet. i think that company has the most irons in the fire of any company i looked at right now. around the world. >> all right, we'll see. i think their target, ms is the target on twitter is at 33. you'd have to see some blood letting to get back to those levels. >> 14 times revenues. 84 times ebita. >> if you get on board here and start rationalizing, i remember during 2000, you'd say, at this point, in 2010 numbers, the stock's cheap. i'm not seeing that rationalization for twitter. i applaud the analysts for being able to say this one, we can't figure out. wall street typically tries to figure out, if they can't, they come up with a rationale. >> doesn't mean the stock won't continue to go higher. >> got a soft float, got a lot of very sided investors. >> i find that twitter is thought of what look at all the things that could happen. first facebook that's happening. this is like amazon. amazon ever said you know what? we are doing so well we could offer dividend. the stock would be cut