my coeditor monroe freedman and i co-authored a book which is a traditional law school treatise on legal ethics. that was a really interesting project but it wasn't nearly as fun as this was or is timeless and its timeliness and said there's always a big case that raises that question. i think the two of us were talking about the work that we both do. we are both academics. i still consider myself to be a criminal defense lawyer just fancier gigs than when i was a public defender in monroe freedman had his own time where he was involved actively in criminal practice. we are both members of an organization called the american border of criminal lawyers so we were kind of aware that there was a need for a book like this and there is a market for it and it would he so fun to put people together to write thoughtfully and personally. i think one of the great things about the look is it has a personal voice to it. >> host: most of the stories and that is what makes it so interesting. they are from the heart in the stories told about the stories that come to mind from the various authors. i kno