c-span: how old was monroe trotter and d.w. griffith and dixon back in 1915? fith were just a couple of years apart in their mid 30s. dixon was the elder statesman of the crew because he was well into his 40s at that point. and he had been an enormously successful novelist and playwright in the early 1900s writing -- and he was, you know, a virulent racist. and the klansmen, upon which the movie was based, was the third in a trilogy of books that explored those themes in the context of civil war and after. c-span: who at the time, took this movie on besides the black folksesome. >> guest: well, they had the support of a number of liberals and supporters of civil rights in the white community. the difficult thing the thing that got a little bit tricky there is because one of strategies of the protesters and trotter's goal in boston was to get the film censored which from our perspective in the 21st century, you you know, gave me a lot of discomfort as a newspaper and a first amendment guy like, you know, why is a newspaper editor going, using that kind of means?