, and buck lee is, what is monte python? beneath him to consider that this was a good tv show. and i actually say in the become he must have been so chagrined with market thatch at the pair diparody's the -- she said something like the little party is dead, dead liberal party, making fun of the dead parrot skit. he was like, what is she doing? so he got along of pbs and thenn when the reagan administration defunded pbs, and nixon trade to defund it and all pbs -- but when reagan defunded pbs, what is great is to read the letters that buckley send out to people raising money. he said, joy, reagan has defunds pbs. now i need you to pay for it. and not surprise ily he was supporting the free market and capitalism and a lot of wealthy capital-its were, yes, here's some money to keep your show m going. so other private foundations and so on and so forthfunds the show over the years so he never -- he schad some ins and downs but base there was never a do you he two get the money he needed once it was defunded in the '80s so it sol