available online at the montecello classroom. it has a lot of different lesson plans that engage the conversations we're talking about. we've got a program with digital field trips where we have a guide skype with the classroom. students can ask what they're thinking about. that's very popular, brand new, we just started doing it. it's working well. we're working on revamping our website. we'll see how that goes. and just a lot of work that you're absolutely right, we hope to just push it forward and keep working with it. and as for the colleges, i did say at one point that i think the most we've ever had is like five african-american interpreters, all of them were interns from the university of virginia. so it is -- you're absolutely right, it's the best place. your comment about, i don't know if students know what's going on, and this relates back to your question as well, that, to me, feels like a loss. what you said, when do you feel like you've missed? we have colleagues at mount vernon. we know the work they engage in, we k