sense that monticello is more than just this house on a hill. the house is incredibly well preserved, and we want people to walk in jefferson's footsteps, but we also want them to understand that monticello had nearly 200 people living here during jefferson's time, and that most of them were enslaved. and so, over the past several years, we have been working to restore the landscape of slavery to monticello, so when you walk outside the house, you look down on mulberry row, and you can understand that there was a center of industry and enslaved life there. and that if you tour the south wing and the north wing, underneath the house, you will see that this was a home for the people that jefferson enslaved here as well, and that it was their work that made monticello what it was and, in many senses, made jefferson who he was. when people leave monticello, i hope they get a sense of the complexity of jefferson, but also how relevant his story is to the nation that we became. here's a man who wrote "all men are created equal" and yet was a slavehold

and bring the family to monticello. and talk about the revolution and as some of the hemings family interaction and what happened during this time was great turmoil everywhere but certain the african-american community many of whom wanted to join the loyalists and the british comic who had promised them freedom to the rebels on the slaves of a rebel who would join the army. so this is a very volatile time free soil in france. there was a phrase that there are no slaves in france, that wasn't exactly true. but, there were slaves, people that were enslaved in france. but it was a place where people could file petitions for freedom. in the 18th century, hundreds of people filed petitions for freedom in france and every single one of them was granted. so this was a pro forma thing. for enslaved people. if the one in their freedom that could take it and at some point it became so clear that the out -- that the court would grant them freedom that some slave owners just freed the slaves on their own rather than fight them in c

you've mentioned that having says of monticello. that won the pulitzer prize in 2008 and we want to show you. >> i'm the director of the international center foreaker w jefferson studies. it's my pleasure to introduce the guest speaker annette gordon reed who is here on the occasion of the much-anticipated studyol the hemmings of monticello and american family. professor of law at the new york law school and professor of history at rutgers university and it remains the mostof theje. influential study of the subject they were the forthcoming which shuld be published by princeton universitye . although had time and this is admirable to complete a short biography that will be published in the fall of 2009. please join me in welcoming annette gordon reed. [applause] thank you for that introduction. [laughter] it's great to be here among so many people i know. i've come back many times and i when is rainin must say i've never been here while it was raining.happy e hee a am very happy to be here with you. this is what this book means to m

madison came, james and dolly came to monticello quite a bit and martha was always there. they grew to be close. she didn't have her mother from the time she was, you know, 12 years old, and so dolly was somebody who she, you know, bonded with. >> yeah. who -- >> sometimes you can have a great family, to take someone -- you know, ivanka in some ways has shades of anna roosevelt in that -- in that she is going to have somewhat of an official role it seems, but she also has shades of alice roosevelt, teddy roosevelt's daughter, because there's also a celebrity. alice was a character. she said, if you don't have anything good to say, come sit next to me. >> yes, and roosevelt says yes. >> and alice would literally put a tack under the cushion of a dignitary of the white house and watch him sit and blow up. she jumped into a pool when she was on a cruise and met her second husband that way. >> alice was very mean to eleanor. >> she was actually mean to many people. she wasn't mean to teddy roosevelt. he said, i have a choice, i can either handle my daughter or run the country.

i hope people who leave understand that while monticello was jefferson's life's work, and he was always trying to perfect it, he also viewed the united states as something that would never be perfected and that would continue to be a work in progress. >> right now we are in the computer history museum in mountain view, california. he had me are over 1000 artifacts until the history of can you going back 2000 years. played out into 19 galleries each one focusing on a different theme or object from the history of computing. those gamesone of is real-time control, we look at things like pacemakers for a heart. these are systems that must function, they are not like a laptop that can crash. if a pacemaker crashes you will die. is a nezdest item perce phone which are ivory counting stick. the most recent thing we have is a iphone. punchcardre in the gallery. what is this? the bureau of the census just finished the 1880 census as you know the constitution requires a census to be taken every 10 years. the 1890 census was not going to be completed in time. was completed mechanically. a figure w

we're headed for lake monticello. should have about two minutes or so of totality there. they are calling it the eclipse of the century. they're right. the last time an eclipse took this kind of path where it went from the northwest united states straight across on the mainland u.s. off the eastern coastline was 1918 so this is a once in a century kind of event time ooh. next solar eclipse in the kind of local vicinity will be in 2024 and then after that one we have to wait another 20 years so this is not something that happens all the time. 81 percent coverage. here in south carolina, we're going to get everything. we'll see the full eclipse. we're going to see the sun's atmosphere outlined by the moon which is something you won't be able to see locally because it won't be full coverage. and what we noticed so far, i mean, it's just after 6:00 a.m. here and we're down the highway and traffic's moving but there's a lot of cars on the road. and it took us nine and a half hours to get here yesterday so lots of folks headed down. certainly expect to see lots of people. if yo

david for monticello, georgia on the independent line.aller: thank you for c-span and for taking my call. i guess the question is my feelings on trump's warnings to north korea. wehink they are exactly what needed to hear, what they needed to hear, a little pushback. now i have to respond to the washington, d.c. caller who just because he is a scientist and trump did not go along with his scenario about the global warming, it is typical of how liberals think. they attack, attack, if you do not agree with everything they say. the rest of the country knows that this kind of talks needing to be taken toward the un family. they are cowards who sit behind their people. a tough stance against them publicly needed to be taken. host: thanks for the call. more tweets, this from kevin -- out of control and delusional. -- presidentrica 1 trump is not the cause of the hostility from any foreign place. the washington times, trump saying fire and fury threat not tough enough. editorials from the wall street journal, trump be in theory on north korea --

he had already retired to monticello and offered to sellar his library to the congress, to the nation because basically there should be no subject that a matter of congress shouldn't have to refer. there were a lot of books in different subject languages and so those were the books at the jefferson building now you can see some of the original books as well as we build them in overtime. >> you have had some really amazing things that are being done. fast forward thomas jefferson in the 18 hundreds to today in average how many has the library received each day? >> at a working day and that is because of getting the, just deliveries. so think about that, 20,000 items are coming in. so, the production of the process and looking and seeing u and calling is quite an operation. if you have a question com, getn line and we will start getting those in just a moment.nt but when you look at those and what has been done. each congressperson is able to work with the library of congress to get donations of surplus books and when we say surplus, we are not talking about used but we are talking abou

is fromholder monticello, who we borrowed this from. 1775 21825,from when he died. it might be something he used when he was writing the declaration of independence. we don't know. here we are with james madison, our fourth president and one of our founding fathers. and what we have borrowed for 1812is a document from called the warship document. this is from the montpelier foundation. this document is interesting because it is a document for a ship. the ship is an american cargo ship, signed by president madison and secretary of war james monroe, who becomes the next president. this document is to show the ship is a neutral ship. at the time, the french and british are taking american ships and sailors and pressing them into their navies to fight for them or sale for them, claiming they are defectors from the british navy. this document was designed to claim the ship was neutral. later on at the beginning of the war of 1812, it was captured by the british. moving on to james monroe, what we have on loan from the james monroe museum is a snuffbox. james monroe was k

it is from the monticello, who he borrowed this from, which to 1825, when1775 he died. it might be something he used when writing the declaration of independence. we do not know. with james madison, one of our founding fathers and fourth president. what we have for this is something known as the warship document. this is from 1812. this document is interesting because it is a document for a ship that is an american cargo ship and is signed by madison and secretary of war, james monroe, who would become the next president. this document is to show the ship is a neutral ship at the time the french and the british are taking american ships and sailors and impressing them into their navies to fight for them or sale for them or claiming that they are defectors on the british navy, said this document was designed to show the ship was neutral and not let that happen. later at the beginning of the war in 1812, the ship was captured by the british. moving on to james monroe, what we have on loan from the james monroe museum is a snuffbox. he liked to snuff finally powdered tobac

and you saw that bust of napoleon in jefferson's monticello, recall in the parlor there.d what was the rallying cry of that revolution that napoleon claimed to be protecting and vindicating? you may also know the story of his coronation in notre dame, right? he was so anxious to get that crown he couldn't even wait, he actually took it out of the hands and placed it on his own head, he was so anxious to become a kind of modern-day emperor for france. so much, right, for revolution and the people. during that french revolution in which adams doubted that the french could sustain a successful revolution, word came that there had been a massacre of catholic priests during the terror. some 200 of them were set afire on barges in the middle of the seine. they were given the exquisite choice of drowning or burning to death. after of learning of this, adams said, i know not what to make of this nation of 30 million atheists. what are he means by this is i don't know how you can have a successful republic, a successful government, based on the people and their will, without some

in monticello. jefferson appreciates it or was it in montpelier? montpelier, i'm sorry. so madison appreciated the c contribution the catholics have made. james, you'll have to keep me honest. george washington, for example, as president of the newly united states wrote to a group of catholics, i presume your fellow citizens will not forget the patriotic part which you, catholics, took in the accomplishment of their revolution and the establishment of their government or the important assistance which they received from a nation, france, in which the roman catholic religion is professed. so adams has claimed that the american revolution was tied to fears of an anglican establishment and by historical evidence. for example, in 1767 the anglican thomas chandler wrote, quote, an appeal on behalf of anglicans in america in which he claimed, arguments for sending english bishops to america were never so urgent and enforceable as they are at present. a year later in 1768, a cartoon in the political register and an attempt to land a bishop in america shown american colonials dr

. >> after the fire, retired to monticello and the largest private library in the united states and offered, sell the library to the library of congress to the nation and there should be no subject a member of congress should not have to refer and had 6000 books. back in those days, there were books on every subject in different languages. you can see some of the original books, filled them in over time. >> you have some amazing things that are being done. past forward from 6000 books from thomas jefferson from the 1800s to today, on average, how many items does the library receive each day? >> every working day, just because of getting deliveries, 20,000 items. 20,000 items are coming in. the production process, looking and seeing, it is great. >> if you have a question, we are going to get those in a moment but when you look at those, what that has been done, you are getting duplicates of each book, tell us about the surplus book program. >> we were able to donate and you were instrumental in that. each congressperson is able to do that, work with the library of congress to get donations

some of the founding fathers in places like monticello and mount vernon are trying to figureç out wayseal with the fact that they were slave owners. they have a lot of history and how you deal with those particular parts of the founding fathers history. this is complicated, but confederate leaders equating them with the founding fathers who had complicated personal situations that often include slavery, i think that was a step too far. >> juan: i've been invited to speak at some of these presidential homes and memorials in part because people want to hear the civil rights angle and the way they've been doing it as they blame the fact thatç they were slave owners and their human beings and they have stories to be told about living that time period and the contributions they made in terms of building the homes and work in the plantations and it's also true of the white house, sold their real people and they are part of our american experience. the thing about the difference that president trump was calling out, i find it so confusing that a lack of moral clarity. if you're talking about

another story i heard recently in a social gathering and that was that there was someone who went to monticello and visited the house and climbed up -- there was a dome on top of the house and he climbed up to the top of the dome and in that dome was sally hemming's bedroom. it was high above everything else. it was only accessible to jefferson. and for me that's an architectural symbol of some of the contradictions that he seems to have harbored at the same time. he took pleasure from the flesh of african-americans, both carnal pleasure and economic pleasure, but he would not allow that african-americans had intelligence or had -- or had righ rights. so for me his attitude, his dismissive attitude toward phyllis wheatley is not really a surpris surprise. >> i just want to thank you. i'm a very big fan of phyllis wheatley. apologies because i have laryngitis. but i wanted to ask about -- it was something i read in grain in salt because it was on wikipedia about an inquiry that phyllis wheatley was subjected to prior to the publication of her book. i know a number of -- i think maybe benjamin fr

i am struck by your discussion of shrines, mount vernon, monticello. these early sites were created as shrines. that is where i keep going but that is where my mind always goes. dr. foote: those are really good examples. i could bring up some examples contested- of some places. my only hope is that what is beginning to happen, people are using those plantation museums to posit a different sort of narrative. it is not happening all over. it does not affect places like washington, jefferson. >> you see there is a real reluctance to engage because that is not what people come there -- as i was doing my research, visitors and their comments and they want to come to me scarlett o'hara. experience they want. that is what we are dealing with in salem. they want to come for the revelry. dr. foote: we could look more generally at african-american history. the examples i gave from the wantriots, people do not to talk about that episode. that was a brutal period. people do not want to be reminded that they were people involved. has beenf a site sanctified but peo

annette gordon reed talks about monticello. and the book if you can keep it. thomas friedman in his book thank you for being late. a report on the opioid epidemic in dreamland. >>> when you think about a one-day festival, the national book festival and you have over 100 authors from children's authors, illustrators, graphic novelists all of these different authors there all day, other 100,000 people come in and celebrate books and reading. you can't have a better time, i think. i'm a little prejudiced because i'm a librarian. but anyone who wants to get inspired, the book festival is great. >> the live coverage begins saturday at 10:00 a.m. including david mcculloch and thomas freedman. former secretary of state condo lisa rice. and michael lewis and j.d. nance on c-span32's book tv. >>> you're watching american history tv on c-span3. next, stanford university professor claiborne carson talks about martin luther king jr.'s upbringing. this took place in atlanta where martin luther king jr. and his father were both pastors. this class is an hour. >> who is mart

if you had visited monticello, say, 20 years ago, you would have come up and just seeing jefferson'sbeautiful neoclassical villa. what we wanted to do was change that. we wanted to restore the landscape of slavery, because if you had come up this mountaintop in jefferson's time, the first thing you would have seen, most likely would be enslaved people. , there would have been no place on this mountaintop that slavery was not visible. we want to restore that, make that known to visitors who come here today.

i hope people who leave understand that while monticello was jefferson's life's work, and he was always trying to perfect it, he also viewed the united states as something that would never be perfected and that would continue to be a work in progress. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> you can watch this and other programs on the history of the communities across the country on c-span.org/citiestour. economy professor discusses alexander hamilton's views on the national debt and imagines how he would have addressed the current debt. the debt is now over $19 trillion. the alexander hamilton awareness society and the museum of american finance cohosted this event. it is a little over an hour. welcome, everyone. i am president of the museum of american finance. our partner is the alexander hamilton awareness society and you turn to them for all things hamiltonian. we turn it to friends of the museum. have wrought some amazing docu

i am struck by your discussion of shrines, thinking mount vernon and monticello these , early sites were created as literally shrines to enslavers. that is where i keep going. dr. foote: those are really good examples. i could have brought up some examples that deal with the very contested legacy of slavery. there's a lot of the same tensions there. i think you're absolutely right in watching what is happening with these plantation narratives and so on. my only hope is that what is beginning to happen is these counter narratives, that people are using those plantation museums to posit a different sort of narrative. it is not happening all over. but it is happening at a few of the ones in louisiana and so forth. it does not affect places like washington and jefferson. they're still has been only a modest change in that. >> you see there is a real reluctance to engage. that is not what people come there -- as i was doing my research with visitors and their comments they make and they want , to come to be scarlett o'hara. [laughter] they don't want to go there to be manny. that is not the e

we just had this conversation about monticello. very real explanation that is required to say someone cannot be both a slave and a mistress. mistress implies a level of c consent, an agency denied a person enslaved. these are real, significant issues in american history. he's not talking about history. he's talking to those forces that feel they have been m maligned. they have been sideline ed or lt out. they are not interested in the historical past. they are interested in trying to use that for basis for their brief empowerment right now. >> you mention this history as a tool for today's politics. we took a look along with other researchers that when a lot of these went up. it's been pointed out these are not sort of original civil war era statues in the sense of being historical. you look at 91 going in that period of the zifcivil rights organizing. this is about the past but it's being pushed by people in the south today who didn't live through that history. >> we know that symbols of hate encourage hate. we know these symbols

i am struck by your discussion of shrines, mount vernon, monticello. these early sites were created as shrines. that is where i keep going but that is where my mind always goes. dr. foote: those are really good examples. i could bring up some examples of contested places. with slavery. there are a lot of the same tensions. you're absolutely right. what is happening with these plantations. my only hope is that what is beginning to happen, people are using those plantation museums in a few cases to posit a different sort of narrative. it is not happening all over. if you like in louisiana. it does not affect places like washington, jefferson. they're still has been only a modest change in that. >> you see there is a real reluctance to engage. that is not why people come there. as i was doing my research, visitors and their comments and they want to come to meet scarlett o'hara. [laughter] -- the do not want to go there to see mammy. that is not the experience they want. that is what we are dealing with in salem. they want to come for the revelry. dr. foo

. >> i feel like this reunion at monticello, it's a special place, the good and the ugly and everythingeen, and this reunion of descendants of martha and thomas jefferson and sally hemming came together in the wake of the dna and it was -- i mean, i've heard you speak about it. it was like a family. it was people weren't at each other's throats over history. can you just tell me about that moment and how we can learn from that. >> i think that first meeting, it was, in some aspects, divisive because people wanted it to be, but there were so many great stories where people were meeting each other for the first time and saying how they're more alike than they are different, seeing each other as family and if this family can come together and stand as one, then other people in this country can put their differences aside, regardless of how many years they were separate bd by slaver and come together, standing for what america now should represent, not what it did years and years ago. we have evolved and it's time for change. >> shannon, thank you so much for saying that. sorry to put you o

vernon and monticello, these early sites were literally created as shrines. >> yes. >> -- to enslavers. so that's where i keep going. but that's where my mind always goes as i try to think about parallels. >> i think those are really good examples. i could have brought up some examples that deal with very contested legacy of slavery. because there's a lot of the same tensions going on there. and i think you're absolutely and i think you're absolutely right in watching what's happening now with the plantation narratives and so on. my only hope is that what's beginning to happen, as you know, is these counter narratives, that people are using those plantation museums in a few cases to cause a different narrative. it's not happening all over, but in a few in louisiana and so forth. but it doesn't really affect places like washington, jefferson. there still has been only a modest change in that. >> you see sort of there's a real reluctance to engage. that's not what people come there -- i was struck as i was doing my research, with visitors, you know, and their comments they make, and they

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we're right here on lake monticello. it is absolutely gorgeous. it's serene, it's quiet.e were not the first once here. there's a group of cars already gathering. we ran into some folks who used to live in d.c. already so keeping it local here even in south carolina. again, we're watching the sky conditions. so far it's perfect. lots of blue skies, few high thin clouds out there. hopefully this keeps up through the afternoon. kind of tracking the sun angle here. we think the sun is going to be above our head at 2:42 which is when totality will occur here in our location in south carolina. again, it's calm, it's quiet, it's peaceful. we're really looking forward to this event. we'll see about two minutes of totality which is where the is unissun is going to be covered. we're going to talk about all of that coming up. we'll be live on facebook all day, live on fox5 live on our youtube channel and we encourage you guys to send in any photos or if you're planning on watching at a watch party send us your photos. let us know where you'll be watching his historic eclipse from t

how long before they show up at monticello where i spent three years for law school.s about the control of the narrative and a destruction of historical recognition. that was terrifying. and what about books? are they going to start burning books too? pete: your argument, where does it end, what does that mean for now then? what should the stance be for political leaders who are hearing from one side of the spectrum. this has to come down, yet when someone else erases history, what is the proper stance to be taken here? >> well, i think more voices are better than fewer voices. so if you have a statue that people suddenly -- a lot of them are suddenly offended by it. then put up a monument piece of understanding or reflection or prayer nearby. they actually did that in new orleans, and that wasn't good enough. so we have different ways to recognize history. it's not like you have the head of the kkk build a monument to him. of course, they were democrats. but that's not what we were talking about here. we're talking about robert e lee who when fdr acknowledged him ear

you've mentioned that having says of monticello. that won the pulitzer prize in 2008 and we want to show you. >> i'm the director of the international center foreaker w jefferson studies. it's my pleasure to introduce the guest speaker annette gordon reed who is here on the occasion of the much-anticipated studyol

introduce our speaker who is here on the launch of perm much anticipated steady the hemming of monticello