i wonder if that's monty don feeling guilty himself. cos i don't think that serves any purpose, really, because i think, you know, you... i think what rewilding does, though — it's a story of hope and it turns people on. so we have tens of thousands of people now visiting knepp and our mailbag is absolutely astonishing, from the amount of people who come here and say, "i was so overwhelmed by the planetary crisis "until i came here, "and i've seen how nature can rebound so quickly "in just less than 20 years, if you just let it. "i now want to be able to do my own thing. "can i contribute to this movement?" and it's people who want to rewild their churchyards, their gardens, their window box. and that is hugely galvanising and inspiring. we're all... we can all be part of this movement. it's not just for farmers and for large landowners. it's for everybody. you keep calling it a movement, isabella. is it a movement that you are seeing growing internationally? because i'm just wondering whether you really feel that knepp is part of somet

i would i'd rather eat my own legs than than dig and fork and be a monty don .k and be a monty don. but he obviously enjoys it. and lots of people do. and they wouldn't like doing the things i do, you know. right and things as you know, writing is agony . i mean, know, writing is agony. i mean, absolute agony. >> i feel sorry for the businessman because they really are motivated by money. now, when you give them all the money that they could have earned if they'd worked hard, they're going in a terrible going to be in a terrible position . position. >> you talk about agi is very interesting because in philosophy he he and his fellow vienna school, you know, the scientists , um, types basically scientists, um, types basically felt that ethics as a branch of philosophy had died. it was no longer a particularly interesting. it was your teacher interesting. it was your teacher in universities, you know, and things, you know, but then technology , bio biotechnology, technology, bio biotechnology, as well as, um, the internet and other things have meant now that peopl