me growing up in a high school in a little town where there was probably ten black kids, it was monumentisn. it gave you a hope you could make it from a small town. i had five brothers, so we all grabbed our coca-cola bottles and our glasses and acted like jackson 5. >> and johnny gill, you were a product of the jackson 5 generation. and i heard you say as a kid watching the jookson 5 special was like watching an event, why? >> the whole family would gather around, and we were in awe. as kids, we didn't really believe they were real. >> egypt, i want to ask you as somebody else who got to follow the jacksons as you were growing up, how do you think they impacted america culturally. >> we were in the middle of the civil rights movement. black people were ready to break out, not only break out and dance, break out and scream, break out asand tear the walls down. to have them on television, i'm sure you can agree, janet, is like black people are on tv. i can do it, too. and you had implications, little white girls and little white boys singing and dancing to the same song. they also helped to