but this is not, and i must stress this, this is not an issue just about monzo.litical parties, access. i think it's a really important issue that we address this, which is why i am speaking out, because if you can't have access to banking facilities at a time when voters are saying, "we don't trust most of the mainstream parties, we want an alternative." but those alternative voices are not allowed into the political arena. how can we possibly have a properly functioning democracy is made even worse than that, what we have been told by several banking institutions is that if our candidates win in the next general election, for example, i am a prospective candidate for parliament, that if we were successful, then they would have to look again at our personal and business accounts because then we would be politically exposed persons. so there is a threat hanging over people who are trying to enter politics and exercise their duties. that's why really this needs to be looked at by both government and the fta, because i really do think the banking sector, the financ

it was it was monzo . yeah. not. it was it was monzo. yeah.ave and apparently she couldn't have an account because they don't do political but her whole political parties. but her whole argument can argument is, well, how can a dissenting new political dissenting or a new political party ever if they can't get party ever run if they can't get a bank account when it was involved with reclaim another political party? >> i mean, it was an absolute nightmare getting getting banking political banking and obviously political parties you need parties need banking. you need you need somewhere to put the put money for your put the money and pay for your campaign stuff. >> but but this is, i think, a far more interesting story because first of all, it's a libertarian question. should a bank be forced to open up accounts for people ? and it's accounts for people? and it's not it's not like the nigel farage story where somebody where she was basically banned because they didn't want political any political parties there any political parties there any pol

it was it was monzo . yeah. not. it was it was monzo. yeah.ave and apparently she couldn't have an account because they don't do political but her whole political parties. but her whole argument can argument is, well, how can a dissenting new political dissenting or a new political party ever if they can't get party ever run if they can't get a bank account when it was involved with reclaim another political party? >> i mean, it was an absolute nightmare getting getting banking political banking and obviously political parties you need parties need banking. you need you need somewhere to put the put money for your put the money and pay for your campaign stuff. >> but but this is, i think, a far more interesting story because first of all, it's a libertarian question. should a bank be forced to open up accounts for people ? and it's accounts for people? and it's not it's not like the nigel farage story where somebody where she was basically banned because they didn't want political any political parties there any political parties there any pol

and they are saying >> monzo. your political account for your political party. a mistake. but party. that was a mistake. but there's people coming there's lots of people coming forward quite lot of mps forward and quite a lot of mps have struggled to get accounts or accounts closed with or have had accounts closed with no explanation . given some no explanation. given some people after 20, 30 years and they're told nothing about why this is happening. >> catherine, thanks for updating us with that breaking news coming through live from your phone. thank you very much indeed. have indeed. coming up, we'll have more criticism on devon and cornwall police following that mass shooting in plymouth 2021. why the local mp calling for why is the local mp calling for more action? we'll update you shortly. first, latest headlines with . with rory. >> thank you very much, mark plans to move 2000 migrants into raf scampton in lincolnshire have been delayed until october . the officials had indicated the first group of migrant

in this story, the bbc contacted the bank —— the bbc contacted monzo bank about gina miller's case, it in allowing the "true and fair" party to use its services. now to ukraine — where the military says its forces are making steady progress in a counterattack against russian troops on the southeastern front line. western officials say a major thrust is under way — though reports indicate that ukrainian advances are relatively minor. in a video published by president zelensky, ukrainian troops said they had taken a village to the east of zaporizhzhia city — under intense artillery fire and air strikes. russian president vladimir putin has said ukraine's attacks had "significa ntly" intensified. 0ur correspondent in kyiv, james waterhouse, gave us his assessment of the latest developments on the battlefield — in ukraine. there are interesting levels to this counteroffensive, it seems, where for weeks we've had ukraine probe for russian weaknesses whilst keeping the bulk of its forces in reserve — and we've seen russia pretty much do the same. and now, if you look at some corners of the w

it's the bank, monzo different. and she had a count for her political party, which they've now said that they're closing . now said that they're closing. and it's they've clarified that basically she should never have been given this account. they say they don't offer this sort of account, but she's basically saying, well, democracy is under threat. then isn't it? if i can't get out an account for a political party, a new political party, it seems it's a bit of overreach as well, considering they've just posted bumper profits. >> we're not really benefiting from this rise in interest rates . they're not really passing much of that on to their savers. we've also had letters from people who have been debunked by natwest as well. and nigel started this campaign of getting people to speak about this . is people to speak about this. is there any sign that the labour party or the labour party saying anything about this at all? >> they've had slightly mixed messages. i mean, keir starmer the other day did come out and say

but it shocking that monzo and nine other banks don't want to give her true and fair party an accountsays, that is bad for democracy . that is bad for democracy. >> well, this is why i've launched , you know, this is why launched, you know, this is why i've launched, you know, account closed.org. it's non—political . closed.org. it's non—political. it's for people from across the spectrum who've been closed out. we need to find out the true extent of this. i mean, you know, the mail on sunday got an foi back suggesting that a thousand a day are thousand accounts a day are being down. can you think being closed down. can you think about that? a thousand accounts about that? a thousand accounts a day. um so i think there's a big national scandal here. i hope i've lifted the lid on it. ihope hope i've lifted the lid on it. i hope it leads to a bigger, broader public debate on a variety of levels and genuine reform, cultural reform from within the banks and other institutions who've been literally by very extreme organisations and legislative change coming from government that says, look,

nigel farage has publicly backed his political opponent after her party account with digital bank monzows all about what it's like to get all about what it's like to get a bank account when you're in politics is lord ed vaizey, who joins now live from cornwall joins me now live from cornwall . thanks very much, editor, for joining us this morning. for a lot of people watching the show, listening to the show, this will be the first time that they've heard about politically exposed persons . do you want to take the persons. do you want to take the opportunity to explain what political expose persons are and why they are looked at in a different way by banking institutions ? institutions? >> so there's a regulation which is an international regulation, but we've adopted the european standard, which is a far higher standard, which is a far higher standard that covers what are known as politically exposed persons or peps. known as politically exposed persons or peps . and it's quite persons or peps. and it's quite actually quite a wide group of people. it's not just serving politicians, peop

account, doesn't monzo account, and he doesn't really other really know why. for bank accounts and who just thought, oh, fair enough, just oh, well, fair enough, i'll just change now change bank accounts and who now think, a minute, i'm think, hey, wait a minute, i'm going to question that. >> i say am one of a >> and can i say i am one of a very, very small number of people nigel about people who talk to nigel about this story broke. this before the story broke. okay. so i can tell you hand okay. and so i can tell you hand on was genuinely in on heart, he was genuinely in two minds about whether or not he would do this . i'm sure he'll he would do this. i'm sure he'll be saying this later, but just to corroborate it, i hold no candle for him as a reporter. i'm telling you about a conversation i had. he was genuinely . he was genuinely concerned. he was embarrassed. right. he was worried about reputation. a lot of the reason did this was to of the reason he did this was to prove a so people less prove a point. so people less powerful him would get powerful tha

and gina miller had an account at monzo.e argument about whether the account open correctly, but account was open correctly, but their account was closed. and it's level, isn't it's wrong at any level, isn't it? the thing that really gets me and why me about this, james, and why it's to on is that it's good to get you on is that local democracy matters. it really does matter hugely . and really does matter hugely. and liz truss wrote a piece in the sunday telegraph sort echoing sunday telegraph sort of echoing a been saying, a bit what i've been saying, that you make it impossible that if you make it impossible for people to be involved as pubuc for people to be involved as public figures in politics, you diminish democracy in this country . country. >> we know you absolutely do. and i sit on the lga independent group, which represents independent councillors from across the country, and it's becoming more difficult for becoming ever more difficult for people who want go against people who want to go against the duopoly, go

and gina miller had an account at monzo.e argument about whether the account open correctly, but account was open correctly, but their account was closed. and it's level, isn't it's wrong at any level, isn't it? the thing that really gets me and why me about this, james, and why it's to on is that it's good to get you on is that local democracy matters. it really does matter hugely . and really does matter hugely. and liz truss wrote a piece in the sunday telegraph sort echoing sunday telegraph sort of echoing a been saying, a bit what i've been saying, that you make it impossible that if you make it impossible for people to be involved as pubuc for people to be involved as public figures in politics, you diminish democracy in this country . country. >> we know you absolutely do. and i sit on the lga independent group, which represents independent councillors from across the country, and it's becoming more difficult for becoming ever more difficult for people who want go against people who want to go against the duopoly, go

she's had and she had a business account at monzo.u should never have had that. we don't have accounts for political parties, but it's interesting. there's many, many ordinary people, plenty of mps saying they've had problems getting bank accounts . problems getting bank accounts. but many, many ordinary people saying that their accounts have been closed abruptly , that been closed abruptly, that they've been given no explanation . and you really, in explanation. and you really, in this day and age , you can't this day and age, you can't manage without a bank account, can you? so it does seem like this is the tip of the iceberg and okay, dreadful for natwest . and okay, dreadful for natwest. they've had £1 billion wiped off their share , their value , but their share, their value, but more broadly , i think it's going more broadly, i think it's going to lead to probably a fair few changes in the financial . changes in the financial. >> i think more names are going to come out saying i've i was debunked because again, nigel made the po

the telegraph, exclusively, the chancellor has told colleagues he was turned down for an account by monzoave said are resulting in their own bank accounts and that of their children being closed. they've got to sort this out, haven't they ? now let's go to the sunday they? now let's go to the sunday express. why banks a risk to national security. banks have been accused of putting the nation's security at risk by refusing to do business with britain's defence industry. the mod has launched a probe after dozens of military companies , dozens of military companies, large and small, complained they were denied banking services because of the nature their because of the nature of their work. i mean, i want the politicians. can you just come back to me for a second? sebastian because i'm really angry about this. what's the point in having a national parliament? we're out of the european union. we've got sovereignty. now. would sovereignty. now. i would like to politicians gather to see these politicians gather in parliament on monday at 8 am. and immediately draft a law forcing banks to give p

having said that i mean this week we found that gina miller her anti—brexit party has been debunked by monzon. what is the problem there? and at the same time , um, banks all the banks time, um, banks all the banks have murderers , rapists on their have murderers, rapists on their books. have murderers, rapists on their books . that apparently is fine, books. that apparently is fine, but if you have, say, for example, an anti—abortion charity, that's another one that was one that was debunked by wise chase manhattan has debunked various they're all doing it. who do they think they are? >> yeah, you could be a rapist, but just not a brexit supporting rapist. absolutely. and i think that's the important distinction, seems distinction, it seems anti—brexit distinction, it seems anti—b really , really, distinction, it seems anti—breally , really, really shocking. >> that's exactly right. look, more power to you, nigel. let's have a look at my pundits nomination for headline heroes and back page zeros. jasmine who's your hero today? well, without wishing to sound like a cracked record , my hero i

having said that i mean this week we found that gina miller her anti—brexit party has been debunked by monzoion. what is the problem there? and at the same time , um, banks all the banks time, um, banks all the banks have murderers , rapists on their have murderers, rapists on their books. have murderers, rapists on their books . that apparently is fine, books. that apparently is fine, but if you have, say, for example, an anti—abortion charity, that's another one that was one that was debunked by wise chase manhattan has debunked various they're all doing it. who do they think they are? >> yeah, you could be a rapist, but just not a brexit supporting rapist. absolutely. and i think that's the important distinction, seems distinction, it seems anti—brexit distinction, it seems anti—b really , really, distinction, it seems anti—breally , really, really shocking. >> that's exactly right. look, more power to you, nigel. let's have a look at my pundits nomination for headline heroes and back page zeros. jasmine who's your hero today? well, without wishing to sound like a cracked record , my hero

been refused by, by banks apart from coutts, we know for example, that jeremy hunt was refused by monzoank account for the rest of us. >> yeah, well exactly. and yesterday rishi sunak said in prime minister's questions that he is planning on bringing in new laws which would clamp down on banks being able to turn away customers without giving any reason for it. as things stand, a bank can just say no without explaining why, and it sounds as though the government is going to try and crack down on that in in the weeks and months ahead. but obviously it takes pretty but obviously it takes a pretty long time for a law like that to pass through parliament. and that's not that long before a general an interesting situation >> and an interesting situation where got nigel farage where we've got nigel farage actually over something in government over something in particular, the way they've reacted quickly, in his reacted very quickly, in his view, reacted very quickly. >> something we >> yes, that's something that we don't there was don't hear very often. there was also of a spat with jon also a