. >> he's a full mooner, he ran as a full mooner.nce. >> how do you go from flat earth, i don't believe in evolution -- >> he never said he believes in a flat earth or evolution. >> that's who he is. >> where is he on science? >> ask him, i don't know. >> where is he on climate? >> it wasn't an issue in the primary. >> the grand wizard ground over there. >> i resent that, what is this grand wizard nonsense, are you saying we're ku klux klan. there is 30 in congress in the birther crowd right there. there is ground to make up on a number of groups, let's take a look. with latino voters, women and independents, how does he deal with that, howard? how does he move to the center, and he's saying they're severely right. is it smart to say you're a right winger even if he is a more moderate than he portrayed himself as. >> what is the smart move? >> for the democrats. >> what they're doing right now i think if they can do it. if they want to pin mitt romney in the corner as we said before, that he put himself in, in the primary campaign. a

. >> i know you remember jackie gleason in the honey mooners. he did not answer. he has to decide to either be a cheerleader, or to lead the conservative movement. that means being an enforcer upon mitt romney. so you can't do both at the same time. he has to figure out his future, is it leading the movement, or something in politics. >> you talk about the pain in the face of santorum, a guy that i personally get along with, i disagree with his politics, but i have not evolved successfully enough to experience my own death and still carry a tune. that's where we're at here. thank you, both. david corn, author of the great book "showdown" which i show again, if you show it again it helps. coming up, president obama is on the trail, and he is showing off what a lot of people may have forgotten. he is a heck of a campaigner. that's ahead. to roll over my old 401(k) into a fidelity ira. man: okay, no problem. it's easy to get started; i can help you with the paperwork. um...this green line just appeared on my floor. yeah, that's fidelity helping you reach your financi