so looking at this as a way of the moratti's putting pressure on cushing and saying, look, we can do it, maybe the saudis can, and there was pressure that was put on saudi arabia. that was at a level where the saudis couldn't actually make concession. it was too costly and have you seen postcards award probably wasn't the right decision not to go forward with normalization. but that was a very, very important element of competing in that information space as well. how you know, looking good in of washington. and it seems like you have tried also indiana to dissociate themselves from saudi arabia, kind of leaving saudi to kind of bad, a political and reputational burden of the conflict and leaving the moratti's with that freedom to maneuver without actually incurring that many costs. well, yeah, go on, complete the false. no, i mean the same is true for israel in israel. the mirage has no consideration for their so called strategic ally and just went forward without trying to find a common position. ok, better than safe. what about the and on the agreement which ended the, the cuts ar

and whoever size that independence ultimately high rents attendance are the moratti's likely to be from saudi arabia, which is a giant's in the region compared to you a year. we know that the site is, are pushing to attracts more inwards investments and try will business going head to heads against the moratti's in terms of competition. i mean, is there likely to be real friction between the t or it will be americans have to buckle at the end of the day? i think what do you measure the gust commercial competition, for example, as you know, the last few months previous months. the so that a, b, i was insisting that although the investing in saudi arabia for anything, construction, any manufacturing, whatever services they should have, their offices headquarters in saudi arabia read as they all have it, even though by gender. any. so that was an issue. and so then if you wanted to pressure them and you did not try, it wasn't the u. s. e. i think when they cut him and not the u, a government, most of those companies have said that know they want to keep the people, the staff, and so on, in

summer solutions, what if there were a parameters that would make it impossible for any of these moratti's disease, the swashbuckling robber barons to borrow money for less than 4 percent? in other words, it's when i call interest rate apartheid they the, they manipulate interest rates to make it so that if you're a friend of goldman sachs, like for example of louis baton in france, bought tiffany's. and they borrowed money from the european central bank at 0. right. i can't do that. i can't buy a company at 0 percent interest rate. so that's, and it's all political, the body cannot, there's no, he cannot mix involved whatsoever. it's pure political favortism, right? so what about saying, you know, interest rates, half that we can allow anyone to borrow money for free, essentially, but that's allowing someone to collect a chronically own, the entire productive base of the economy for nothing. there should be a positive interest rates for private borrowers. definitely, but the trouble is by letting the see much bought profit our entire lives. you've now got the level of debt that if you bro

the moratti's feel that the baseline, the baseline from which the production cuts were calculated were effect on production levels of 20. a end of 2018. dim are off is happy, invest the 1000000000 to up their production. and they just feel that if the agreement is to end by end of 2022, then that's 4 years from day when they feel it's not fair. and the saudis, that the russians are more worried about holding things together. so that's what so different was interesting. yesterday we saw a joint declaration by both saudi arabia and them, or mom, which is the largest. no, no one could use it in the middle east for export to in the middle east, which this bechtel ational corporation is really vital. the oman, the amiable is with thing. saudi, as we speak. ok, my fingers crossed the come to some kind of resolution and tell that count can you be and i are joining us for an incense, so i do appreciate it. thank you. the climate envoy, john kerry, is in moscow trying to encourage russia to cut its carbon emissions at the staunch of this for a visit. carrie met for a minister surgeon love rules

i interview about his dealings with the moratti's. mike, hannah has more now from washington. he himself is still in custody. the prosecutors say that he is a flight risk, given his immense wealth, access to a private air crop. deep relationships with countries like lebanon and u, a saudi arabia. so we have heard nothing from him and unlikely to until he actually appears at possibly a bail hearing. prosecutors refusing bell at this particular stage because he's a flight risk. but all in all this 7 indictments, again, thomas barrack, very serious indictments, indeed among them that he lied to federal agents during a interview in june 2019 about these specific events. but one must look to at the why the context of this is that the prosecutors say that between the dates of donald trump's innovation for the next 3 years, the u. a. e and saudi arabia, it's close allies, put some $1500000000.00 into racks, suffer and wealth fund a vast amount of money indicating that they were paying for services being given hey, t has a new prime minister after 2 weeks of uncertainty following the

i interview about his dealings with the moratti's. ryan grim is washington d. c. bureau chief of the intercept and investigative news organization, he says barracks arrest could have implications for more powerful people. is a billionaire used to moving in some of the most powerful circles on the globe who was, who was going to remain in prison? you know, for the foreseeable future, unless he can persuade a judge to somehow let him out until his, his trial. but the main question is going to be whether or or not baracus this has information that could, that could get him a reduced or non existent sentence that would implicate people higher up the chain . and brock was so high up a chain that there are very few people that, that, that label would apply to. and jared kushner and donald trump, or are among the few that i think would qualify. the biggest and answer question is, it's a 2 part question. does brock have information about any got any golf country, whether it's cut through the u. e. saudi arabia or, or anybody else who offered financial benefit to anyone