and every other university, morehouse, fisk. they were all meccas of very intelligent people because segregation was in, no jobs were available outside of those little townships. >> when was the first time you realized there was racism? >> i experienced it for the first time with the come dors. the first time i knew about it was certainly on the march on washington. i was old enough now to understand that. the march on montgomery. because we had a college student that was living with us that actually went to that. i was too young to participate. but he would come back and tell me all about it. of course, when you see these huge policemen with the dogs and the spray and the horses and everyone is there, you know, unarmed, you know, it was quite -- it was impactful to me. i remember as a kid i kept thinking, where are we going with this? then i think when it really hit home for me was i had a chance to hear malcolm x speak on the campus. he dealt with the issue in a very philosophical way. i thought it was brilliant. he said, don'

pictures of his memory and his legacy are there, and never did i realize that the good people at morehouseng me and you never know who is watching and i get a letter saying we would like to indetect you into the college of preachers and i am thinking, what? so, it was an on i cannot refuse. >>peter: a well citizenned award. dr. king talked intelligence and character and you symbolize. >>guest: i hope is. i am scratching my head, and saying, are you sure it is me? >>peter: a humbling award. we are so proud of it, it isful. >>guest: it is humbling, because as i said you never know who is watching and i opened this, this is the award. it is beautiful. and my wife and i are getting it framed but what it says, and that is a charge to keep, if i can sum it up it says, peakly, love god, love people, serve humanity and dr. king was all about that, and that is what i try to do with the series at fox "beyond a dream," trying to show people in the positive light, people have accomplished the men dream but have the gift of service, and they want to give back, and those are great stories and it goes be