talking to economists and administration officials, to get moreng oncerned the further this goes. right now, the markets are not responding. they say we now know you have a lot of drama and public. and will get it done at the last minute. people say, what if hey don't? just the fault, it is making hard choices about who to pay and to not. china's debt or the social security check? >> you raised the question we d with, how much of this is a real showdown the cadaver consequences and how uch is ritual? what is your own best guess? is this a real showdown or ritual? >> i think it is a bit of both, because it has become a ritual the past several sessions. i am not sure forever america's e was this high close to the actual deadline. it is a high-stakes game of cken that we have seen over issues the last several big issues like this. i think people are concerned. both sides have very nationalist positions and are different to get a part. i think perhaps the american eople would be interested to know how much progress both say was made during the talks before they broke down and how it w