the previous special prosecutor moreno ocampo had declared after three years that the crimes in iraq had not reached the threshold of gravity to warrant an investigation so it's clear that. it's not delivering impartial justice and it's very unlike a delivery impartial justice given the that it's serving as an adjunct to nato and the state you're in you're getting a little ahead of me ok ok bill do you want to answer the same question is it is it delivering impartial justice. i mean after all the indictment against africans right now africans only yes that's true we just celebrated the tenth anniversary of the coming into operation of the rome treaty creating the i.c.c. and yet it's still a work in progress i absolutely agree that. every single case has been brought against african. people and therefore it seems as though it really is a kind of almost neo imperial or near or imperialist kind of operation but i think the idea is a sound one and if the other countries of the world that have not joined the i.c.c. eventually do so and that includes my own country as well as china and ind

when moreno ocampo was able to declare after two months of what gadhafi did did indeed merit not only investigation but an indictment so it's going to it was ridiculous to say well this this doesn't warranted this does and same with in the case of the ivory coast the crimes of one political leader well these do indeed rise to the threshold of gravity but the equal crimes of the others who happen to be the proxies of france or nato they they they don't rise to the threshold of gravity i mean clearly it's making these political decisions and so that's why i totally disagree with the idea that. justice is better than no justice no. a hard justice is worse than no justice because hard justice is a mockery of justice lawrence go ahead reply i think churches room together two separate issues i was a very critic and i remain a view critic of the original invasion of iraq there is still very different from saying that the invasion is a crime it simply is not at this stage a crime that the international criminal court could consider we have all sorts of reasons to believe that it was an egregi

prosecutor at the time moreno ocampo said he would open an investigation into two points one did palestine hands the capacity to accept the jurisdiction of the i.c.c. two did israel commit war crimes and crimes against humanity in operation cast lead well the latter question was answered in the goldstone report by the un human rights council that indeed israel had inflicted war crimes and crimes against humanity in operation cast lead and as for the first first point as he was leaving. called a press conference saying it was not for him to determine what palestine was a state so he was not going to act on the comply that was a real cop out for political reasons because palestine had just been admitted as a member state to unesco which is a un specialized agency in any of their last friday. compos successor has been pseudo has announced that in light of the un general assembly vote are giving elliston observer state status she is going to revisit that issue. but second dad that initiative was not on the basis of palestine becoming a contracting party to the. rome statute the international c

the previous special prosecutor moreno ocampo had declared after three years that the crimes in iraq had not reached the threshold of gravity to warrant an investigation so it's clear that. it's not delivering impartial justice and it's very unlike a delivery impartial justice given the that it's serving as an adjunct to nato and the state you're in you're getting a little ahead of me ok ok bill do you want to answer the same question is it is it delivering impartial justice i mean after all the indictments are against africans right now africans only yes that's true we just celebrated the tenth anniversary of the coming into operation of the treaty creating the i.c.c. and yet it's still a work in progress i absolutely agree that.