let's talk about it with morgan wright. an, a lot of people think that apple is the safe company when it comes to hardware and software. what is the breach of ipad and iowa phones? >> as someone who has developed apps andon on the the utines store myself. it was so simple i was going why didn't i think about it. it is a safe place to be as long as you submit apps. they down load malicious apps and replace the good with the bad actors and i am sure someone is thinking why didn't we think of this. >> you have to down load not from the apple app store. >> right. you might be on a third party page and see the pop up. do you want to install? it has a similar sounding name. now flappy birds. or yeah, when you do that. it enstalls not that program but replace your e-mail and banking client and takes over that information. and same way you down load from the company or enterprise. it does not go through the app store and why it works. >> how many people are infected so far? >> it is hard to tell. we haven't had a lot of reports. it

the cyber security analyst morgan wright on just how to do that. how to keep your information safe. w do we do this? >> don't shop, charles. just go to cash. no, actually, you know, this -- every season we cover this and you find the same patterns repeating themselves over and over again so we wanted to come up with some tips to give to the viewers to say how do you protect yourself this holiday season, especially on cyber monday. so these things are -- some of these tips are -- they sound like common sense but you wouldn't believe the number of people who commit the same thing over and over again. the first one is don't fall for the sense of urgency. >> we have them, don't fall for the sense of urgency. what exactly does that mean, though? you get some sort of an e-mail that says you've got to do it right now kind of thing? >> absolutely. fear of missing out. you only have 30 minutes to order this. if you have the sense of urgency and you hurry to order, you'll overlook the obvious red flags. oh, this doesn't quite seem right but if i don't hour, i'm going to miss out. so they use t

with me is morgan wright.nuclear weapon weapons. they still do. these are smart people. it's malware, software designed to wreak havoc, and destruct things. we were focusing on china and the other issues in the world, the russians kept building things. where we're most vulnerable, as you pointed out, the critical infrastructure, water, utilities, communications. if you can disrupt those, then they go do something like in crimea and the ukraine, our attentions are focused on that, we have a cyber event here at home. >> all right. it's my understanding, morgan, that this was put there in 2011. >> yes. sfrmg >> is there any way that we can disarm this mall wear? >> look, it's to pervasive, this is the equivalent of where's waldo with software. because it was deployed in europe on telecommunications at nato, so we have the advantage of understanding the command and control structure, how it's used. we're able to use that to find it in our systems. but the critical infrastructure, 85%, is owned by the private se se

here to weigh is in morgan wright.e to see you. >> hi, clayton. >> we take precautions on our phone, putting in pass code locks and fingerprint security now we have to worry about airplanes? what's going on here? >> look, an important thing, people should make a distinction. this is not intelligence gathering. the mission is to find wanted criminals, track down fugitives. when i looked into this, we did a lot of work at the department of justice, this is about finding suspects drug traffickers, criminals and fugitives. it is discerning to some, make a distinction between the data program and what they are doing here. it is still capturing some of your information while you are driving around. >> you are easing my concerns a little bit, but not much. they are catching information that is not related to the investigation. here is how the technology works. you have devices deployed on the airplane mimicking cell phone towers. what is it doing while it's scanning the phones? >> think of this. it's a man in the middle attac