there's a report out this week about mormon toring of private sector internet activity. that's the other side of this coin. >> south korea was just shut down this week as a result of north cory flay interfering, so we're seeing these things happen. >> john -- >> i was at a briefing five years ago on all of this. you can't i am mailing gin how vulnerable we are. all of our air traffic that whole system could break down. our trains. all of the clearance. >> electricity? >> electricity. >> people suffering and day from hypothermia? >> and crashes and everything like that. a huge portion of this country is dependent on this. >> look what we did to the israelis with the nuclear plant that the iranians got. you wrapped it all up, rained the thing. they targeted one thing with one simple straight attack. now, imagine that in all the power plants in the united states, telephone systems, tell graph, all of these things, internet, dropping that whole thing down, even for a number of days, and you stop the american economy. >> this is called asymmetrical warfare, but i want to okay