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the mormon church believes only mormons can enjoy the full benefits of heaven. they have over the years been performing baptisms for the dead. we don't have time to get in to the mormon description of heaven but it is unlike any description of heaven in any other religion. members of other religions have strong feelings about mormon baptisms of the dead. earlier tonight, elie wieseleid holocaust survivor and the founder of the elie wieseleid foundation for humanity told me of how he learned about the mormon practice. >> it began much before, a few queers ago. two friends of mine, one of them a holocaust who survivor who was together with me in auschwitz, we learned about a procedure in the mormon church. i think 600,000, 650,000 dead jews with converted posthumously. so we began to protest. it took years and they stopped it. >> this week, a researcher found elie wieseleid's name on a list of people to be baptized after their death. >> in my first interview, i said, look, he is a mormon and i respect all religions. how come he hasn't spoken up? i'm sure he is not

>> he's a mormon. most christians would not recognize mormonism as part of the christian faith. >> joining me now, dr. robert jeffress, senior pastor of the 10,000 member first baptist church of dallas. he is the author of "twilight's last gleaming: how america's last days can be your best days." thank you very much for joining me tonight, pastor jefress. >> thanks, lawrence, i'm usually in my pajamas with a bowl of popcorn watching you, so this is a real treat. >> that's good to know. i'm going to picture you now every night in those pajamas. >> no, no, don't do that. >> you heard reverend graham today saying he's not sure if president obama is a christian. it's an answer he gave me last year saying i can't look into someone's heart. when he's asked about rick santorum, he said, i'm sure he is. in fact, he said he definitely was. he said he's pretty sure that newt gingrich is a christian. what is your reaction to that set of reactions by franklin graham? >> look, lawrence, we love franklin graham. his

what happens is, a mormon elder reads a list of dead people's names while a living mormon proxy is submergedaptismal font on the back of 12 oxen representing the 12 tribes of israel. the mormons use it to travel back to baptize people in the past. it's -- it's like it's some kind of -- >> hop tub time machine. >> that's it. i didn't -- [ cheers and applause ] i didn't even know this guy was a mormon. now, i want to be clear. as television's most famous and important catholic, i do not condone posthumous mormon baptism. if you're going to baptize someone against their will, you do it the catholic will, with an inquisiti inquisition. but i think the mormons are being misunderstood here. mormons are just trying to get these dead jews into heaven. now, of course, they're not allowed into the best mormon heaven. that's in the celestial kingdom. and as for true-born mormons only, it is the first class cabin of paradise. hot towel, warm nuts, the whole shebang. but don't worry, dead jewish viewers. you do -- [ laughter ] you do get admitted to the terrestrial kingdom, which is sort of like mormon h

he's been a lay official in the mormon church.s given a ton of money to it, which is very generous. but the fact is that he doesn't want to talk about it because he reads polls and he shies away from it. so you feel even subconsciously that something is missing with him. so he gives the same stump speech over and over again and talks about his career in business which has been challenged now. >> it's fascinating because every mormon i know and have met is actually very easygoing and open. we had a wonderful dean of admissions of our college who was a mormon, in fact, back when we were applying 1,000 years ago. but when you see that poll that we talked about in the last segment with 20% of americans saying, i won't vote f you tell me it's a mormon. in politics, you see a number like that and you would get scared by that and you'd go, i want to hide that. >> but since everyone knows he's a mormon, it's ridiculous on its face. and one of the reasons the number is so high is not about the faith itself, is there hasn't been much talk a

with a mormon as president. black protestant have the highest discomfort level. 62%. interestingly, it was the younger generation that at the highest discomfort level with president.n being democrats are about 50%. tea party, 30. women more than men, 45 to 30. guest: there are two things going on with those numbers. when we ask about discomfort with a mormon president, everybody has one person in mind, mitt romney. the number among democrats that is so high is about into the toward the republican candidate -- about antipathy towards the republican candidate another thing that is what on is among white evangelical protestants. they do not have the partisan worries. that has been haunting mitt romney all through the primaries. he did better in florida at that he has been doing. he ran about even with newt gingrich in florida among evangelical protestants. but he is lagging about nine points behind with white evangelicals when he has been running in the general population so far. host: by the way, the numbers are o

rubio as a child and teenager was a mormon baptized into the mormon church.e the news complicating the issue of whether or not he's selected as vice presidential nominee? >> i think there are two things to look at. one, does it matter he had connection with the mormon faith at one time in his life when he was young? and, two, will this bring attention to the complexity of his religious life and his faith, you know. the first part, does it matter that he was mormon at one time? i think that it's been established through polls, particularly by pew that mitt romney wouldn't be hurt in a general election by the fact that he's mormon. that being said, there are people who have questions about the mormon faith and interesting when you look at the research that pew did, they asked people what is the one word that comes to mind when you think of a mormon? and in that study while a majority of people had positive things to say, family values, et cete, some of the most commonly referenced words were cult, different, polygamy. cult was number one. that says there is sti

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voting for a candidate who can beat president obama was most important for both mormons and non-mormons yet again a big deal. but mormon voters were more likely to emphasize the importance of a candidate's moral character. take a look at that number there. 32% to just 15% to others. there was no real difference on a candidate's experience, but when it comes to conservative credentials non-mormons placed more than mormons on that issue. so we'll keep an eye on all these numbers, michael, and bring you more information through the night. >> thank you, tamron hall. newt gingrich is vowing to stay in the race until the convention. this despite a loss in florida. joining us this evening from nevada is the former nevada goch chair and current ging ri67 supporter sue lowden. has he lost the big mo? it seemed like he -- but it's been downhill ever since. >> well, he's the comeback kid. he's been down and out once or twice before. i'm sure he's planning to make a big comeback. >> tamron hall showed us -- and she stressed the economy, debt and electability on the minds of your fellow nevadaens an

belief in mormonism. i think he was talking more technically and i believe they are christians and i think that most americans believe that as well. it's not an issue. that is not what this campaign is about, if it is, we have a problem in america that is broader than the election. >> and should the issue be whether president obama has a deep enough faith. the questions about jeremiah wright? >> no, it should not be. i don't think it should be at all. i don't think his faith or his pastor or anything like that is part of in. what is part of this is who can governor america and who can get the country back on track who are can have -- who can have this country standing up as a sign of freedom and get the people back to work. i think that romney is the only one that can do it. i think the people in michigan are seeing that increasingly. and i think he wins tuesday. >> what if he does not win tuesday? >> march on to super tuesday, don't give up. >> what about us being told if he does not win on tuesday, part

>> about 1%. >> and mormons? >> mormons are somewhere between 1 and 2% as well. >> now, part of your study was, discomfort with mormon serves as president and what you have here, and this was done in september 2011, all voters, 42%, had a discomfort level with a mormonist president. black protestant had the highest discomfort level. 62% unaffiliated, 47% catholic, 42% level of discomfort. white mainline, 30%. interestingly, it was the younger generation that had the highest discomfort level with the mormon being president and democrats at 50%, republicans, 36, tea party, 30, and then women more than men, 45 to 30. >> right. >> what's going on? talk to us about this? >> there's actually two things going on with those numbers. one thing is partisanship. when we ask about a mormon president, everybody has one person in mind and that is mitt romney. what we're seeing is that number among democrats, for example, it's so high and really towards a republican president. and the other kind of dynamic going on there is amo

one of the points that a mormon scholar made to me is if you do a mormon mission as mitt romney did for two years in france, you're not living high on the hog. you're mostly trying to convert people at the lower rungs of the economic ladder. he has spent time with people other than gazillioners. he could talk about that if he was willing to access the mormon dimensions of his biography. >> he was asked about this practice of mormons baptizing dead people and he said i have but not recently. i don't know if that's fair game or not. he said it, obviously it's news. it's news now because of his position in the polls, but it does make me wonder a little bit about the tone of the coverage going forward. i want to turn to rick santorum on cbs this morning the other day he got into it with charlie rose and had to do with a joke a bad joke, that was told by a santorum financial supporter, froster frees. when frees said, wlell, in my dy women practiced birth control by putting an aspirin between their knees. >> when you quote a supporter of mine who tells a bad joke and i'm responsible for that,

what impact with the mormon vote in nevada. we expect to do well with the mormons.ve a respect of liberty and these are the folks that gave us scouts . we are competing with the mormon vote and we respect those people and we respect their respect for liberty. >> why do you think you do better in caucaus states as opposed to a primary? >> well, we did very, very well in the new hampshire primary and strong second place. you know, caucaus states reward grass roots campaign hard work and you can make up for your lack of financial resources through organization and through passion. and dr. paul is a great grass roots campaigner and he brought the house down, over 700 people and it was wonderful. these are the kind of people who turn out to caucaus in a smaller environment. they are highly motivated and tuned in to the issues are the people who will caucaus. a primary is a broadsentiment but the people who are tuned in the issues and studied and understand what is going on is likely to caucaus. that's why dr. ball does well. >> other rivals are saying apart from mitt rom

power. >> the moody's with mormons, too too. won't deter them. >> they see romney, and study the issues. >> despite mccain's nomination in 2008, romney won nevada and scored 45% of the mormon vote. wjz "eyewitness news." >>> rick santorum and ron paul are, are already looking ahead to states that are scheduled to hold nominating contest. paul is focusing his efforts in minnesota. >> officer is arrested accused of tipping suspects before a drug raid. investigators say corporal rick alexander warn the suspects that officers were about to raid the home on thursday night. the suspects then told police that's when they moved several grams of marijuana. >> while we were exiting the search and seizure. one of them indicated and told us, corporal alexander was the individual that called there. and that's what prompted them to take the drugs out of the home and hide it at a different location. >> the 36-year-old is charged with obstruction and conspiracy. >>> the search for someone who sexually assault add woman in the strip mall is heat

more mormons than nonmormons will emphasize the importance of moral character. 32% for mormons and 15% for nonmormons. >> thanks, tamron. anthony terrell is in minnesota joined by ron paul. >> chris, i'm joined by dr. ron paul. dr. paul, early numbers coming in expected to get 25%. four years ago you got 14%. how is the increase going? >> i think it's doing well and hopefully we get a little bit more than the 25 t remains to be seen. but i think it reflects the momentum of the freedom movement, especially in the last four years. it's certainly built -- since the economic crisis has hit and people are getting tired of the wars. putting people together that don't like war, they are interested in the monetary season and know that debt is a big problem and i'm offering the only cuts in the campaign. we're galvanizing people and offering a real solution to our problems. >> you mentioned momentum. some of your rivals are in other states. you visited states like maine that the other ones have largely ignored. how are you going to bring this momentum and can you explain about your delegate cou

the mormon whistle blower helen radkey said they did another mormon baptisms. recall the mormon church apologizing to simon viesenthal for baptizing his parents. but now someone has baptized anne fronk. yes, the 15-year-old dutch girl killed by the nazis in 1945. helen radkey said this the ninth time that the mormons have baptized anne fronk since 1989. if anyone of this religious stuff is true, one hopes that at least this leaves her know, the head mormon. but our winner, bob morris. this is prove that we do not pay our elected officials enough money. the fort wayne representative wrote saturday that he carefully investigated one radicalized organization and found that it supported abortions and homosexuality and the girl scouts. it was the girl scouts who are a threat to the united states, and's not even talking about the well-known fact that if you unscrew a girl scout cookies you are left with two weapons. despite the fact that brian bosma ridiculed morris by handing out girl scout cookie, morris will not only run unopposed, he's doubled down saying, my fam

not the mormon vote.ey begets organization grassroots. >> when i asked how much will that play, he said not much. it's interesting to see they are not spending that much money and their super pacs as well on ads there. it's a battleground stake. jon, good perspective. thank you for joining us. >>> tonight, it's nevada's turn to join the heated contest to decide the republican presidential nominee. our coverage will begin at the top of the hour -- our coverage begins now. we will have a special edition in "the situation room" with wolf blitzer at the top of the hour. >>> up next here on cnn, why is the fbi calling this man the geezer bandit? he's been robbing banks in southern california. e's a prize. [ male announcer ] inside every box of cheerios are those great-tasting little o's made from carefully selected oats that can help lower cholesterol. is it a superhero? kinda. ♪ >>> you want to watch this next story. a gun-wielding grandpa who's robbed more than a dozen banks in southern california, still on

here's what we learned about a quarter showing up are mormon, romney himself is mormon, he won this group nearly entirely four years ago. the biggest issue on voters' finds the economy followed by the federal deficit and illegal immigration. number one attribute, voters want nearly the identical number we've seen. the ability to defeat president obama in november. abc's jonathan karl has the latest on the contest. voters heading out shortly after day break. >> reporter: republicans in las vegas started lining up early this morning to take part in the nevada caucus us. >> thanks, you guy, whoa, way out there. >> mitt romney may be confused about the weather. thank you for being here tonight. outside in the cold. it's not that cold. we're in nf this right? >> things are looking good in nevada. after the landslide victory in florida tuesday he's hoping to put together back-to-back wins first winning streak of the campaign. it's a state that's been good to romney before. he won here overwhelmingly in 2008 boosted in large part by mormon voters, last time around mormons represented more than o

he won here overwhelmingly in 2008 boosted in large part by mormon voters. last time around, mormons represented more than one quarter of republican caucus-goer, 95% voted for romney. but romney is dealing with comments he made wednesday about the very poor. >> i'm not concerned about the very poor. we have a safety net. if it needs repair, i'll fix it. >> reporter: romney didn't mean that he doesn't care about the poor but his opponents pounced. >> if you're a genuine conservative, first of all, you don't say that you don't care about the poor. >> that's not the republican party i believe in. that's not the conservative movement in america. we need a president that doesn't believe in 95% or 99%. we need a president that's concerned about 100% of americans. >> reporter: after tonight there's only five contests remaining for february. the next big battle doesn't come until super tuesday, march 6th when ten different states go to the polls at once. >> romney is already looking ahead. dashing off to colorado for a large rally they vote on tuesday, before he hea

and here is how that could affect the race, mormons turn out about 70 to 75%.o, they could be going out more for mitt romney than they were even in 2008. which could put romney's numbers up and secondly ron paul was hoping for a small caucus turnout because he has a very good ground operation that can get people out to the precincts and out to the locations and vote for him. so that could help propel ron paul into second place, and that would actually defy the poll numbers that he had going in here, he was polling in single digits. so we'll see how that turns out. bret. >> reporter: thank you, let's introduce our panel of fox allstars. steve hayes, amy stoddard, associated editor of the hill. and bill kristol and charles kro krauthammer. you look at the poll numbers, going in mitt romney would have a big night. there will be a race for second it appears. >> yes, sound like a race for second. in terms of delegation, it could be proportional, a difference between one or two delegates between second and third place, i think in that way, in the delegates don't matt

>> he's a mormon. most christians do not recognize mormonism as part of the christian faith. >> he's not a christian be. >> most mormchristians do not r it. >> he used it as a contrast between himself and the obama administration. >> i can assure you as someone who is understood very personally the significance of religious tolerance and religious freedom and the right to one's on conscience, i will make sure that we never again attack religious liberty in the united states of america if i'm president. >> now, with the religious rhetoric heating up, leave it tot stephen colbert to call up a speech. he said satan is at war with america because america is so good. >> if you were satan who would you attack in this day and age? there's no one else to go after other than the united states. >> that's right, folks. the only ones satan is taking is us. god's favorite country. all the bad stuff happening in the other parts of the world, starvation, genocide slavery, that's not satan, so it must be god working i

mormonism as part of the christian faith. >> so he's not a christian? >> i'm saying most christians would not recognize mormonism. >> well, actually, a majority of americans, many of us christian, do recognize mormonism as part of the christian world. his definition, fair enough, it's his definition. i think he does have some wiggle room because it's his definition of what a christian is, alex. he means fundamentalists. he doesn't include mainstream churches. he doesn't include lutherans. certainly doesn't include roman catholics. he includes his notion of born-again fundamentalists. that group of white, evangelical, you know, basically baptist people, that group does not accept mormonism. but that's his way of talking. >> sure. if you become a christian apparently after you have been working as a community organizer on the south side of chicago, that's not a valid form of christianity either. it's no surprise, i think, that he sort of distinguished his own christian theology from that of mitt romney's. there are differing tenets. this is not a good thi

>> you really have to understand the mormonism and the book of mormon specifically because prof prophesizesa choice seer. he is like moses and he will establish the new jerusalem. >> luff quickly becomes convinced that lungren may be the choice seer predicted in mormon's scripture, that this man may be holding the answers that he's been seeking for most of his life. >> this is when i began to realize that maybe there's something unique about this guy. >> how many months before you became convinced he was? >> oh, it wasn't probably about six or eight weeks. >> in six or eight weeks you're convinced after moving there he has the answer, that he is, in fact, a prophet, is what you're saying? >> sure. by this time i was convinced he was the prophet. >> as luff quickly immerses himself into the group, he begins to lose touch with the outside world. his days are dedicated to lundgren's teachings and his thoughts are fueled by lundgren's words. >> it's not overnight but over time, i recall it might be like a group thing where the thoughts and behavior are continuously on a daily basis reenforced b