whether they're vulture investors, people looking to do a mornitgage, and the governmens presence may be warranted in the past, the future, needs to be diminished a bit to get these investors off the fence to make a move without waiting for more, more, more in their favor from government programs. >> vince? >> so first of all, exchange rate deappreciation is always the banks' dirty little secret. let's face it. net exports are a source of growth. so the fed is accepting a little dollar deappreciation. >> that's a command and control planned economy. steve liesman, we just learned in this past decade, that that kind of sinking dollar will come up and bite us in the keister, to use reagan's phrase, and create bubbles of assets and why don't they go and absorb some reverse a reverse. >> i'm very surprised at you both arguing that the government should keep the dollar artificially high. >> boo. >> let me finish. >> what are the terms of trade? the terms of trade are such that the united states has a dramatic -- >> it's called creating too many dollars, rick santelli. isn't that the real c