international trade commission, peter morrissey.p-ed piece in which you suggest that raising taxes and cutting defense is not the way to go, and you make your argument based on our current level of defense spending. sum it up for us. >> well, simply defense spending after we take out the wars which is already scored in, that doesn't count in cutting back the deficit, you know, is not that high a level. u.s. force strength, the number of fighters, the age of fighter, the number of ships we have and so forth has been significantly reduced, and the fleets are older. on top of that, china's building a navy, our responsibility in the persian gulf don't go away, and we're going to have to counter china in the pacific. we need more, not less. jon: but china spends a relatively small amount compared with our defense budget, right? that's the assumption. >> about 27 president. and if we go out in time at the rate they're growing with the cuts we're talking about, china will be spending two-thirds as much as we do, but it'll all be focused in