obviously the big manners, livingston phillips, morrissey anna i think it was. they had these big manners where they may be somewhere between 20-40 enslaved people living there but the majority of the people in hudson river valley had maybe one to three enslaved people living in their houses. they were enslavers themselves. what it did is it caused more issues and actually made slavery more cruel than it was in the south because people were isolated, and especially the women. one woman make a living in a household where she might not see other people of color or other enslaved people anywhere near her. so it created an isolated life whereas in the south you would see much more of a slave culture that would be able to develop. you would get the music and these stories and maybe 200 200 people living in their own cabins that were not always being watched by the masters. not that life was easy either way, but from a research slavery in the north was more cruel because the isolation. i felt at a think ashley agreed with me that the way to tell the story about enslav